“The Canada Goose jacket, is it worth it?”
That’s the question I asked a bunch of commuters while waiting for the bus in Toronto. When I first spied the huge numbers of Canada Goose jackets flocking the city I had no clue the down-filled, fur-trimmed jackets were so expensive. With so many people wearing the Canadian-made coat, I figured the price was affordable.
I was wrong.
With a price tag of around $1,000 per parka, the Canada Goose jacket is expensive.
Why are Canada goose jackets so expensive? Are Canada Goose jacket wearers getting goosed? Or is there real value behind the expensive Canada Goose brand? Basically, Is it worth it?
Let’s unpack this pricy parka.
Why are Canada goose jackets so expensive?
Canada Goose was founded in 1957 by Sam Tick as a working-class brand but has since transformed into a luxury status symbol. The brand boasts their jackets can endure temperatures as low as -30°C and the animal fur trim (coyote fur) protects against air-flow and frostbite.
In 2001 Sam Tick’s grandson, Dani Reiss, became CEO and expanded the Canada Goose brand in Stockholm and across Europe. Canada Goose got an off-camera boost when cold-weather film crews donned the jackets during film production, and made it on the backs of celebrities in 2004 when Reiss sponsored cold-weather film festivals like Sundance and the Berlin Film Festival.
In 2013 the brand blew up in the United States when Kate Upton wore a Canada Goose parka on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Now that’s exposure!
The materials and technology used in Canada Goose jackets have not changed significantly since the early days. The brand is now using 800 Power Fill Hutterite down, which is traceable, in the priciest jacket models, but the price has jumped significantly with few material changes to the jacket itself.
What has changed is celebrity endorsement and international popularity.
So why are Canada goose jackets so expensive? Canada Goose is expensive because the jacket is now deemed a luxury brand worn by celebrities around the world. Sure, many coat owners claim the Canada Goose materials and technology are superior and warmer to other winter coats on the market, so let’s unpack the details.
Canada Goose Jacket, Is it worth it?
For years Canada Goose has used down insulation, referred to as fill powder in the industry. Fill power is a measure of the loft, or the “fluffiness” of a down product. Canada Goose jackets have a standardized fill power of 625, 675, 750, and 800. The pricest parkas boast an 800 fill of Hutterite down, which is traceable in certain models.
The jacket shell, or outer material, is made from “Arctic-Tech”, which is how Canada Goose brands a standard fabric made from 85% polyester and 15% cotton with a DWR (durable water repellent) finish.
Now you know some down jacket lingo, let’s compare all the “luxury” Canada Goose features with a winter jacket I own from Patagonia, the Tres 3-in-1 Parka.
Canada Goose Shelburne VS. Patagonia Tres 3-in-1
Canada Goose Shelburne Parka:
Fill Powder: 625 White Duck Down
Shell: Arctic-Tech 85% Polyester, 15% Cotton, DWR
Hood: Removable Animal Fur Tim
Features: Celebrity Owned
Temperature: -10°C / -20°C
Weight: Not Given
Country: Made in Canada
Price: $1,100 (Never on sale)
Patagonia Tres 3-in-1 Parka
Fill Powder: 700 Duck and Goose Down (100% recycled)
Shell: H2No 100% Polyester (50% recycled), DWR
Hood: Adjustable, Snap-on/off, Stand-up Collar
Features: 3-in-1: Zip-out Parka + Shell
Temperature: -10°C / -20°C
Weight: 1,446 g (51 oz)
Country: Made in Vietnam, Fair Trade Certified
Price: $750.00 ($300 on sale)
Bottom Line:The Canada Goose Shelburne Parka and the Patagonia Tres 3-in-1 Parka are comparable winter coats. Both boast comparable down fill powder, a durable water repellent finish on a polyester shell. Canada Goose has a coyote trim hood and all new materials with an Arctic-Tech shell, while activist brand Patagonia uses recycled components, no fur, an H2No shell, and offers a 3-in-1 design. Both jackets are comparably temperate rated.
Price: On price, Patagonia jackets can be purchased on sale (I got mine for $300) and Canada Goose jackets are never price-reduced at the end of the season. The Canada Goose Jacket costs 32% more than the Patagonia Jacket (regular price) and 73% more on sale.
Everyone knows these parkas never go on on sale, so Canada Goose isn’t racing to the bottom to be the cheapest or most affordable coat in the market. I mean, if you want cheap, you shop at Walmart. If you want a Canadian-made coat, then maybe there’s a price to pay.
Considering material and technology both winter jackets are comparable, so spending MORE on a Canada Goose Jacket isn’t worth it, right?
What do people think?
Reasons to Buy a Canada Goose Jacket
The worst type of cold is the feeling of the wet windchill biting your bones while waiting for a bus. Let’s go back to the bus stop in Toronto where I asked budget transit commuters, “Why the heck did you buy such an expensive coat?”
Why people buy the Canada Goose Jacket
- Warm without bulk: Felt “light as air”.
- High quality materials, durable: Loved stitching, fabric, perceived coat to be durable. “An investment that will last for years”.
- Made in Canada: “Not a cheap coat made in China.”
- Lifetime Guarantee: “Warranted to the original owner”.
- Fashionable: “Popular in the culture.”
Reasons for not buying: “It’s too expensive, not worth the cost”, “just a celebrity brand”, “it’s all marketing”, and “you can buy a comparable coat for less”.
Birds of a feather? Pros and Cons!
It’s hard to put a price on staying warm. It’s even harder to put a price on emotions and how you feel wearing something that’s deemed special, rare, or luxury.
Yes, you can find a warm winter jacket comparable to a Canada Goose jacket for a lot less money. The biggest differences between Canada Goose and other winter jackets on the market is the controversial coyote fur trimmed hood, expensive luxury price, and the Made in Canada origin.
Future buyers should note the recent Canada Goose sale to U.S. company Bain Capital could change where the jacket is made. So far the coat has remained in Canada.
How many hours do you work to buy it?
Another way to decide if a Canada Goose jacket is worth it is to tap into a little behavioral science and use Opportunity Cost.
- How to curb spending in 30 seconds using Opportunity Cost
- What are the trade-offs to buying it?
For me, I’m sticking to my $300 Patagonia Parka. The price point has enabled me to purchase a dressier, fully-lined wool coat for $199 from BCBGMAXAZRIA.
So far I’m dealing with the Canadian chill, but I’d love to know what you guys think. Drop your comments, below. Would you join the flock and buy a $1,000 coat?
Love love love,
After years of buying cheap coats that would only last a handful of winters I said yes to the $700 parka two years ago and haven’t regretted it one bit!!! No more freezing and constant layering of semi-warm coat and multiple warm sweaters to get through winter!! Also really helped when I sold the car and start taking the bus!! The way I figured it was that I won’t have to buy a coat for the next 10 years!! (~$70/year) I bought Canada Goose not so much for the name but also for the fit, I’m taller than most.. Same with the boots, also Canadian-made company $250 and they are on their 4th winter and I’m sure I’ll have them for another 4!!
I’ll be wearing my Goose until there’s no feathers left in it!!!
No. Not even if I still lived in canada.
I live in Ottawa, and walk 30min each way to/from work the whole winter. With the right layering I feel toasty warm in my old and worn ski jacket even in -40 wind chill. It’s the face, hands and feet that feel the chill more. I would invest in a good pair of gloves and socks instead.
You can get a great really warm Mountain Hardware or North Face Down Filled winter Jacket for half that price. So in my opinion No. Not worth the price to me.
Canada Goose = status symbol = vain waste of money….
Bought a wonderful Mark’s Work Wearhouse HD3 Tmax car coat for an amazing sale price of $125. It is warmer than ANYTHING I’ve ever owned. Also, no innocent coyotes were killed so I could parade around in my overpriced dumb jacket like a complete tool.
Just to point out to the people throwing out the over priced card. If this company is going to the extremes to source the feathers and manfucator the coats in Canada do you think they’re paying their employees minium wage? Giving people a fair wage means a product isn’t going to be as cheap as one made in China. Just think about that.
I presently own and wear a 12 year old Linda Lundstrom Laparka, which was the coat of choice for teachers doing outside supervision in central Manitoba. I wore a lighter jacket today since it was only -17 C but I have to admit that I have been looking at the down since the original Laparka is no longer made. If a product is really good for our conditions and made in Canada – and will last – then it just might be worth the cost.
25 years ago, my dad bought me a parka from Army & Navy, with the fur trimmed hood that “tunnels” out. Between that, my hubbies work snow pants from Marks Workwearhouse and Sorel felt lined boots, I’m nice and toasty any day I venture out in -40 here in SK. The parka is waaaaaay to warm for anything above -30C….so I rarely need to use it. (Because I’m much wimpier in my older age, and don’t go outside unless I absolutely have to!) When my son finishes his final growth spurt, we’ll take him either to Marks or Peavey Mart to get outdoor winter work gear.
I admit I have no sense of fashion…..but I do have a sense of warmth!
Cheap coats are like cheap shoes–they fall apart quickly. I have no problem getting a cheap coat for the kidlet–he’s never going to wear it for a second winter.
I don’t think you have to spend $700 to get a good coat. I do think that, if you’re looking for a good coat at WalMart, you’re probably not going to find one.
I would if I could, especially if manufacturing stays in Canada. I spend a hundred buck on a winter coat at Pennington’s a couple of years back–not an insignificant amount for someone on a limited income. The seams started splitting within the first year, and now it just looks like junk.
If I can manage it, this year I’ll be getting a new coat that will (hopefully) not be made in a sweatshop, and will last a couple of years.
Kerry, your wool coat looks just fine (and very warm). My only problem with it is that it’s not a parka, which is garment much more suited to my outdoor activities.
In agreement with everyone else…STATUS SYMBOL… I have down filled North Face jacket for 5 yrs and it is toasty warm for the brittle winds of Ottawa. I paid $300 for it. Also I don’t have to have “coyote” trimmed hood (really!)
It is nice to see “Canadian Made” however as stated it has now been bought by an USA company who will and I guarantee it outsource the coats to be made in China or India and will not be the same quality that people like to say they are!! Good Luck with that “Canada Goose”
I seriously considered if for the reasons listed. Especially the Canadian aspect, but no prof the coats are made in a union environment. I also despise labels and looking like everyone else. I ended up buying an $80 Joe Brand parka, removed the yucky furry hood, and had the zipper replaced at the farmers market for $30. This is my third winter wearing it. This winter I have been walking and taking transit, and the quality of my plain black Joe coat is fine. With apologies and thanks to the folks who made a pittance making it for me.
*proof* not prof
Sure, lets all buy cheap Chinese so we don’t have to work because there’ll be no work. Let’s all fill landfill with their garbage that lasts a few months and then has to be dumped. Wrong to spend so much money when we can keep Chinese in work and our own people on the streets. Get to it, support the Chinese economy
Yes, in a heartbeat. Growing up in Saskatchewan taught me the value of warmth and safety at an early age.
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I’m in Montreal and we have Kanuk here that sells for the same price : http://www.kanuk.com/ If I ever buy a coat for its warmth and status symbol, that is what I will buy and they have sales ! But, no, I would not buy a 700$ coat.
Absolutely! For the first 40 years of my life, I froze and shivered through winter. Then I discovered those really warm coats and I have never been cold again. I am not the type of person who has to change coat every year so paying a high price doesn’t bother me. One of my warm coats is 20 years old and still looks brand new. It’s still very very warm also. I could go out in -40° and still be warm.
My daughter ( style changes slightly each year) first year of university 7 years ago. It is still going strong, looks great. Good purchase while waiting for buses during university and now for her commute.
Canada goose is made in Winnipeg by the Richlu Family, they started in Toronto but it has been here for 60+ years. There are still some clothing manufacturers in Winnipeg. Silver jeans come to mind and their is another family who make the outer wear for the armed forces and did a generous donation of outerwear and sleeping bags to one of the shelters for the homeless(Siloam Mission)
No, but that’s because I live in south Louisiana, USA, on the Gulf Coast. Still, like many posters, I imagine you can stay warm for much less than $700. At $700, it’s not the COAT that’s being fleeced….
Yes, it’s worth it. I live in Winnipeg – we don’t understand why someone in Toronto would need one, but if you are going to be outside in temperatures below -40, then a Canada Goose is totally practical. Think trying to walk a dog when it is -36 AND windy. Or having to stand at a bus stop waiting for twenty minutes at 7am & it’s that cold. Not much works, including the overpriced (& not well made) North Face parkas. To be fair, Mountain Equipment Co-op has similar stuff at half the price, but they are made in China, & probably not as warm if you’re going up North.
I am still warm and toasty in my knee length wool coat from Winners purchased 5 years ago for $80. No killing of coyotes required for my warmth!
Living in Saskatchewan which is probably only rivaled by Manitoba and Nunavut on how cold it gets I had announced in the fall that I was going to buy one of these jackets. However, I’m cheap and kept stalling due to the price. Then when waiting over an hour outside in -25 weather to get into Greycup events I noticed two girls in front of me wearing Canada Goose Parkas. They were jumping around as if in death throes due to the cold and right then I decided I wasn’t buying that jacket. For that price they should have been the most comfortable people in line and that definitely wasn’t evident. I went and bought a down filled Point Zero Parka for 50% off coming to a cool $125. It’s definitely more Sugly than Sexy bought don’t care.
When I lived in New Brunswick I didnt have a need for an expensive goose down jacket, my snowboard jacket with a sweater on those really cold days were all I needed.
Now that I live in Regina Saskatchewan where the temperatures can dip well below -40C with the windchill, I really appreciate the Canada Goose jacket that I bought two years ago. I agree it is not essential, there are many other people staying warm in Regina without the Canada Goose logo on their sleeve, but on those really cold days I really appreciate the warmth of the coat and while standing on the corner waiting for the crosswalk sign to change when the windchill is -45C, I am glad I paid even a high price for the comfort.
I think it comes down to what part of the country you live in. This coat is probably overkill on Toronto, but in the prairies it is very valuable. So the price should be relative to how much comfort it will bring you.
A good winter coat and winter boots are definitely something I do not skimp on. I have a good down parka and boots that have lasted me for at least 4 winters now (maybe more). If it is cold, I put the hood over my toque and I am toasty warm.
But, I will not pay $700 for a Canada Goose. I am more than willing to pay more for Canadian made products, but that kind of money is just not in the budget. And I am not a fan of the use of coyote fur.
I recently bought the Kensington jacket and don’t regret it one bit. I didn’t buy it for the brand but for the warmth, the quality and the lifetime warranty not to mention it is made in Canada. The North Face jacket I had stood up to Halifax winters but didn’t cut it in northern Alberta. Quality and performance is worth every penny.
CG is definitely a status symbol hence the ridiculous price -but the trend must be over because yes, CG does go on ‘sale’, since you can now get them at Costco.
My wife just bought me a Canada Goose coat and I must say that I absolutely love it. I walk over 40 minutes every workday outdoors and no other coat has ever kept me warmer. The hood and collar do an awesome job protecting the face and neck from windchill and sleeves are excellently designed to seal off the cold.
I had a North Face coat in the past (that broke) and I find that Canada Goose is much better.
Please tell me which Costco sells CG!
I would not buy anything that had to have a coyote killed to line the hood! and most likely not $700 for a down coat – there are many other as warm ones out there. Like someone else said, one needs to also make sure one’s feet, face and hands are as protected.
NO WAY!! That is an outrageous price. The mark-up must be HUGE.
Dare I say it, but even from south of the border, same quality, same warranty (women’s), comparable coat:
LL Bean – $269
Patagonia – $299
Eddie Bauer – $229 – $249
Barbour – $250 (on sale at a Barbour outlet; normally $550) – where another seller
(UK) advertises this women’s Canada Goose parka for 733 POUNDS, or
CAD $1274.00. What the??
These online prices available to anyone.
Shop around, esp. at manufacturers’ outlets and/or Boxing Day sales, Etsy and others.
As importantly, do your homeworrk on kinds and qualities of down…
For all who say the price is not worth it: Not if you live down south where it is warm all year.
I bought my Canada Goose coat in the 1990s and have been extremely pleased with it. Here in Labrador we often have the temperatures drop for a week or more where the daytime high might reach, before adding wind chill, to a balmy -30. At times I am outside for two to four house and I assure you that in those temperatures a warm Canada Goose parka is worth every cent. As well, I have had mine for about 20 years and it is still in rather good shape. Perhaps not as attractive as the day I bought it but at -35 sane people are more interested in functionality than looks. So about 20 years and I paid less than $700 originally, less than $500 if memory serves correctly, I think it was well worth it.
Yes I would buy one. I like to pay for something that lasts. Also you are thin and gorgeous.
I dunno. Sounds too much to me, especially when a little layering will do just fine. Maybe it really depends on your climate.
To all the people objecting to the coyote fur, I’m assuming you’ve never lost a pet to one or had your child attacked by one. They’ve moved into Toronto and when I lived there, it seemed like every week there was a new missing cat poster up and I remember the headlines when one attacked and killed a family dog in their backyard. I’m fairly certain I heard about a child attacked too, but not killed.
Now I’m not saying coyotes should be hunted to extinction but taking responsibility for the excess population by putting them to use sounds like a reasonable and wise solution.
I had a Canada Goose parka for the last 8 years, but it was starting to look old and I accidentally ripped it. Having a newborn a $700 jacket wasn’t something I was ready to buy. We went looking for jackets all over. Stumbled upon the Sears Alpintek… and holy crap is it awesome. Totally comparable to my old Canada Goose… and it was only $220!
I bought the Sears knock-off for $179+tax. I love it. I once paid $700 for a down-filled snowboard jacket for my son. It tore just the same as a $100 dollar one and after two winters wasn’t “cool” any more. So no I wouldn’t pay $700 for a CG. That is flat out a ridiculous price and I can say that cause I actually HAVE paid that before and it was NOT worth it!
I have a MEC down parka that have kept me warm in parts of Canada like the Northwest Territories. After 10 years of use, there are some minor scuffing but it is still going strong and just as toasty warm. It is well designed plus it costs only half as much.
I lived in Siberia for 23 years so I can judge. $700 for a winter jacket… Hmmm… As any woman I should have lots of jackets for lots of occasions: classy, trendy, moody, weatherly and simply a coat/jacket that matches my new boots/shoes or a new purse. They also should be up-to-date I think so I change them every 2-3 years to have a modern look. I would never buy so expensive jacket that I can use for couple years only and look like the same Xmas tree every winter… I will better buy more different coats for lesser price… So I say NO to this jacket!
I’m in Toronto too, and I don’t think for a second that all of those “Canada Goose” jackets I see are legit. There is a thriving market of knock offs.
I don’t own one. You get what u pay for inpatient cases
If I lives in Vancouver no I wouldn’t buy but if I lived in
Yellowknife I would
Interesting comments from people who call it a status
Symbol but in the same sentence say they own
North face gear. Hellloooo north face is just the same
I understand the need for warm clothing in Canada. But I must believe this coat is over priced. It cannot be that much better than a $500 coat. And the coyote trim. What ever your feelings about coyotes keep in mind that many a coyote fur is actually dog. Further gives one pause…or is that paws. Surely people kept warm in Canada before this coat came along and they will continue to keep warm,one presumes.
@Jess You know I’m not the gal on the cover of Sports Illustrated, right?
Too much money. I’m sure there are lots of coats which are comparably warm, and layering is better for you in all kinds of weather.
Coyotes – people aren’t killing them FOR the jackets. They are being hunted anyway.
Warranty – what the heck does this REALLY mean?
“Warranted to the original owner against defects in material and workmanship for the lifetime of the product.”
umm, the lifetime of the product is how long it lasts. If it falls apart, who decides whether it is covered as being ‘within the lifetime of the product’? What a stupid wording.
Oh, but I do like the Made in Canada aspect. I wonder if they will continue to be. I try to buy North American made items whenever possible.
Nope. Way beyond my budget, and how would I layer down during hot flashes? Of course in Vancouver I don’t regularly need this much warmth, but I inherited my Mom’s el cheapo Manitoba parka, and it more than fills the bill…
There are a few objections to the use of coyote fur in this coat. In parts of Canada, coyotes are consider vermin and are regularly hunted as such. If anything, these coats are sourcing material from a local culled animal that might otherwise go to waste. Would one rather have artificial petroleum-based faux fur wrapped around their face? Or a leather jacket made in a sweatshop in Vietnam? If the goose down is sourced from local huderite colonies, then it makes sense that the fur trim is locally sourced from rural Canada as well.
There are also many comparisons being made between CG and other brands… Of course brands a like north face are going to be cheaper- they are made in poor foreign countries where their overhead costs are lower so they can still price in their inflated markups on their products and still have their coats come out to only a couple hundred bucks retail. If a price comparison should be made, it should be between CG and coats made in other developing countries where fair worker wages are paid, so coats made in the EU, US or other Canadian brands, like the kanuk comparison made above.
I have been debating buying a CG for two years now, but still can’t bring myself to pay that much because I don’t do much walking outdoors. I either take the subway or used the PATH (underground system in TO) to get to around and a down coat would have caused some serious overheating. But now with a child, I will likely spend more time outdoors so I may invest in one in the future, but I will wait and see how my current 8 year old parka holds up and the fate of CG (will it still be sourced and manufactured in Canada?). The coat is worth it if you will get a lot of use out of it- otherwise it’ll just be a pricy fashion statement!
About a decade ago, I was being sent to Hudson’s Bay in the middle of January for work but I was also on a budget. I went to Sir Plus in Ottawa and got myself a parka for under $300 which was my entir3 budget at the time. It was not down filled, and the lining around the face was fake fur, but it worked just fine, even when the mercury in the thermometer disappeared entirely into the bulb.
That parka did not last more than 5 years, unfortunately.
If my work was going to take me back up there again on a regular basis, I’d definitely consider the $700. But here in Northern Ontario, it just doesn’t get quite that cold.
I purchased a “cheap” Target parka that lasted me 10 years, kept me warm and the bitter wind out. I ended up donating it while in Canada as I had too much packed in my suitcase and it was too warm to wear it. I have yet to discover another great find like it. I wouldn’t pay $700 for a coat though.
I don’t bother with expensive coats. For Ottawa winters I just wrap myself in recycled Fiberglass Pink. Cheap and fashionable!
The most I’ve paid is for my 3 in one Columbia jacket. I don’t care about fashion so much as being warm… I just walked away from a beautiful turquoise coat at target for 79.99. I still have a work coat and my Columbia coat which is 8 years old. If I had $700 to spend on being warm. I would. Price is relative to your disposable income. I’m not working so an $80 coat is too much and easy to rationalize not buying as I have two coats.
No I know you are not the photoshopped SI girl! You are the cute girl in the sleek back coat!! This article inspired me to start a savings account just to buy the Canada goose jacket! I believe in paying more for better quality. I already have a winter coat I bought 3 years ago for $150 from Land’s End. It’s very good quality but as I’m planning on moving to Edmonton I will need another coat too.
I was ‘down’ with the idea at one point, so I actually went to try one on, and then realized that there was a coyote fur-lined hood. Ready to buy one, I asked if I could purchase it without this fur, when the reply was ‘No’, I was out. I don’t agree with wearing fur. There are other Canadian made options available, without the fur 🙂 OR, Value Village has finds … that’s what I’m wearing now… for $13.00 a warm, black fitted 3/4 length jacket… and I couldn’t be happier.
If that’s the only investment decision that’s preventing someone from walking to work year-round instead of driving, then it might be worthwile. Driving is more expensive, but still… $700 seems like a lot for a coat.
I guess that you have not heard of the wonderful all-Canadian company Kanuck, which has its headquarters in Montreal. Their coats and accessories sell for lots of money, too, but they have fantastic sales in November and December each year in which they knock off at least a third of the price and you can get a top-drawer coat for minus thirty Celsius (that is cold!!!) for less than $400 and it will last you a very very long time. Great value for the money. They are at http://www.kanuck.com.
@Tara I totally agree which is why I haven’t bothered keeping up with the comments.
@Mart Bourdon I did a quick google search and kanuk’s profit margins seem to be about 18% and their coats are made in China. Which leads me to believe their original price is inflated which how they’re able to have sales.
I finally decided to buy CG (Kensington) this year. Not sure if it’s worth almost $800 after tax especially since I find that Kengsington parka is not even THAT warm. Yet, I do not regret buying it. It will last me for years, it is well made and made in Canada and more ethical than Chinese made down coats with fur. The only annoying thing is that ‘everyone’ seems to be wearing one especially in Toronto. Also, I do feel guilty about wearing coyote fur.
I purchased a hooded down coat for a fraction of the price and it has lasted 7 years to date.
If you could get 5+ years of use out of the jacket then I would say sure! You get what you pay for. But from my past experience 3 years for my jackets is about all I get.
Depends.. I had a CG since before they were trendy and cool. Back in ’95 when I worked in Yellowknife they were pretty much standard issue if you were spending any length of time outdoors in the middle of winter. However, jacket technology (in terms of synthetics) has change a lot since then and there are more alternatives out there now that didn’t exist back then. Having said that, I love my CG bomber I bought at Coast Mountain (before they became Atmosphere) I bought on clearance for $150 bucks taxes in.
After dealing with constant bits of down sticking to my clothes from my cheap DKNY winter coat bought at the Bay, I caved. But I didn’t cave for Canada Goose, I got a Mackage which is much more stylish IMHO. They are made in Montreal and they do go on sale on occasion (I took a chance and ordered a non-refundable one on sale after trying on a different model in an Ottawa store). Sometimes, I’m TOO warm on my morning walk to work!
I saw some Canada Goose women’s jackets in Costco last week, under $500. I am assuming they were authentic….
I grew up in Brazil and moved to Toronto 10 years ago. My first 7 winters I wore/layer: a long sleeve under shirt, a sweater, a Patagonia fleece jacket, a long down filled jacket, a toque and gloves. I was so bundled up that I couldn’t put my arms down. During -30 degrees days, I was shivelling like my internal organs are going to freeze. 3 winters ago I bite the bullet and bought an Expedition CG jacket. If you ask me where my gloves are – I couldn’t tell ya. I don’t need them or any other winter gears anymore!
I bought an Eddie Bauer down parka 10 years ago on sale for $125. Nothing could keep my any warmer or dryer (and if I had to pay $700 for that, it would be a waste of money). It is still in great shape, and who cares about buying CG because it’s Canadian…. especially when they’re fleecing the dumb for nearly a thousand dollars!
Do you want to support 1st world jobs and manufacturing? Or do you want to support the rising 3rd world? (Complete with it’s lousy labour practices, rampant pollution, poor workmanship, and questionably sourced materials)
She should try northern prairie in January before she declares herself a veteran of cold weather exposure..Vancouver?..ha!
It’s strange so few people here mention the Kanuk winter coats. Of course they are expensive. $700 is their starting price. All synthetic. Very high quality. Wide choice of styles and colours. Different models for different temperatures. You can’t beat them if you are willing to spend the money. All made in Montreal, except for the optional Finnish raccoon furs. I have been wearing mine for 8 years. I don’t have to walk fast at -30°. kanuk.com
A couple of December’s ago we visited Toronto from Barrie I got a good chuckle out of seeing all the Torontonians wearing their Canada goose parkas when the temperature was +7 and raining! Of course the outfit was completed by the mandatory Hunter Boot!
I have just purchased a down coat also made in Canada by the Lole company of Quebec and I am staying warm in these subzero temperatures! And it cost half the price of a Canada goose coat! Yeehaw!
Yes its worth it. Atleast I hope.
Im traveling to Canada’s Arctic in the Baffin Island. I will be flying to 6 stops. Its going to be awesome. So I will need my Researchers jacket for my adventure. It cost me 799 before tax. Its ugly like hell :[ I wish i had the trendy ones hahaha.
I live in Winnipeg, trust me when I say it’s worth every penny if not more !
When I moved to TO last year, I couldn’t believe how many people were wearing those jackets either. Before I had left, I picked up a really nice, long winter jacket from Winners for $99 – worked like a charm!
People pay too-high prices in Canada for many things – clothes and homes especially come to mind. I learned this after I lived abroad for several years (in London, UK, which is a very expensive city generally).
No way would I pay $700 for a Canada Goose coat, which I think many people do not just to be warm but to be “trendy”. I prefer getting good value for my purchases. I like Junge down coats, which are half the price and very well made. Sometimes they are hard to find, but it’s well worth it!
I bought a $700 Kanuk jacket (made in Montreal) that is the functional (rated to -28C) and stylish equivalent of the Canada Goose jacket . I’ve had the jacket for 20 years and I’ve weathered many a storm and howling wind. There is no reason the jacket won’t last another 10 or 15 years (or more). Hands down a bargain in the grand scheme of things!
I bought my Canada Goose parka in 1994 and have worked across the North since then. Though I’m not an outdoor worker and no longer live in the arctic, when needed my CG parka has kept me warm in the coldest temperatures (aided by warm boots and fur mitts, of course). Maybe expensive and not particularly sleek, intuitively it seems that a coat made in a cold place for a cold place only makes sense. If I ever need to replace my parka, a Canada Goose it will be.
I just bought one.
It is a high quality, well made, and warm coat. I like how slim it is. I spend alot of time outside so i am willing to pay for a proper coat. I personally don’t really care that it was made in Canada.
Is it worth $700? My guess is that you are paying about $200 for the name. There are certainly other coats out there that are just as warm and slim for less. So you just need to decide how much the “fashion” element is worth to you.
I’m not against the price tag for a warm, nice-looking, made in Canada coat. I am certainly against the use of real coyote fur on the trim. So I would never buy one, myself.
At one time (probably 30 years ago now) it was easy to find a large selection of canadian made down filled coats at reasonable prices, that didn’t turn you into a logo-sporting billboard. But then the economy changed and those coats mostly disappeared, replaced by cheap coats suited for no place colder than chicago or new york or toronto. The worst part is that most people don’t seem to realize how ill-equipped they are for serious cold, which feeds into the perpetual whining we hear about how cold it is out, even when it isn’t really that cold.
Ask yourself this: what if everything (food, clothing, fuel, most services) came from somewhere else because it was “cheaper”. There would be very few jobs here that truly added value and we would be entirely dependent on others for our survival. We continue to move rapidly towards that reality today.
These coats are an example of top quality, fashionable and practical garments made in Canada that cost what they should cost.
“Something is worth what somebody will pay for it. Nothing else, nothing more, nothing less.” – P. J. O’Rourke
You think you’ve experienced winter by living in Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver and the Okanagan? Give me a break!!! I dare you to spend a winter in Winnipeg where windchills in the -30s don’t even cause a ripple amongst the populace. That ditsy little coat you’re wearing wouldn’t last through September out here, so please don’t comment on the travails of winter living until you’ve actually lived through a real winter.
@Allison I feel your cold chill. Gotcha!
The only 700+ dollar jacket men/women should wear is Burberry. Anything above that has to be a legit name brand that can get you into golf courses or fine dining events whilst still looking good at the doors of a club or a social/networking event.
Canada Goose jackets are teenage thug status rich folk brag-a-rags.
Say no to foss.
I bought a $400 Pantagonia made by child labour in some sweatshop offshore. So the extra money doesn’t seem like such a stretch. I don’t make a huge whack of money, but neither am I a slave to money, as a lot of people are these days. (they have the moneey to buy whatever, but spend endless hours to find the best deal because everyone knows the only thing that counts is how little you paid)
Bottom Line: I have regretted buying cheap stuff. I have never regretted buying top quality goods made in North America.
$700 is on the low-mid end of what Canada Goose coats cost. If you wanted the super heavy duty coat, it’s $1200-1300. Canada Goose has become high-fashion and in the world of high fashion, a down jacket at $700 is a bargain. Go look at a Gucci, Prada, and D&G down jacket, they start at $900 but most are around $1000-1600. Even a lower brand Ralph Lauren down jacket is $800.
I just bought a Canada Goose because they were the only company who made a men’s extra-small. If I could wear a men’s small or medium without looking like I was wearing my big brother’s jacket, I would have bought a North Face jacket for much less money, though.
First off, I bought my goose three years ago and have never looked back. Best coat for the winter. I have been walking in minus 18 c and sweating! However, if you own a car, don’t bother, get a car coat. This coat is only for walking outside or being outside for long or med periods of time. I debated for a long time getting this coat, and have not regretted it.
Don’t get the coat at sporting life or harry rosens, you will be ripped off. Get it at real winter camping realtors, the price will be 100 to 50 dollars less. As well, get the coat with a long or full length size. Why get the bomber style? That’s just for fashion. Another trick, was that there was a rumour that Costco was selling them for 600. So to sum up, if you drive, it’s just for vanity. But if you walk allot outside or use a bus at as a primary means of communication, it can’t be beat.
If people can afford a $700 coat buy it.
If they are buying it on credit and not paying the credit card on time that is a bad decision.
Don’t turn $700 purchase into a $1000
So I bought a Canada Goose Snow Mantra coat in the fall 2006 about 7 years ago. It is still in perfect condition. When I wore it in -48 I was able to wear a t-shirt underneath. This is not the slim light Canada goose that some people are talking about this is the 12 pound behemoth of a coat that has a built in scarf enough reflective tape to light up an airfield and allows you to work when everyone else is hiding inside because it is too cold. I take it on every winter road-trip because if I end up in the ditch for a night I will be alive the next day. The same coat now sells for over $1000 and I wouldn’t sell it even if I was offerd me that. A few years ago my wife kept getting sick in the winter. I got her a Canada goose Resolute parka and she hasn’t had a cold since.
If you don’t want to be cold ever again get a goose. I would love to buy their stock but as most really good companies are they are privately owned.
Ha, I own a car 🙂
I just want to note that there is likely a reason for the coyote fur. It is the choice on every warm and functional parka…. as I believe it is the fur that does not frost up from your breath.
No to the $700. I bought a similar coat made by DKNY in Winners for $150. It is very warm, well made, and should last a few years.
I bought a CG Resolute parka about 6 years ago for working outside on winter nights. Best money I ever spent. The jacket still looks like new.
I agree that most people wear them as a status symbol esp in my home town of Toronto. I think that statement rings true for the city oriented coats.
I should also add that I placed a group order directly from CG for 10 coats & that greatly reduced the cost per jacket.
I have an almost 30-year old “Snow Goose” down coat. “Snow Goose” was the earlier name of Canada Goose. It was my main winter coat for nearly 20 years and I still wear it. It’s more comfortable than my newer Northface parka. If the new ones are as good, then $700 doesn’t seem like too much for made in Canada with ethically obtained down (no live plucking-shudder)and fur (no factory fur farming).
I’m on my third winter with my Hudson Bay olympic parka. It keeps me warm and most of the time it is too warm.
No down, no animal fur trim, $150 and still looks like new.
Spending a bit on a good quality coat is worth it… but for Canada Goose, you pay for both quality and status symbol.
I walk to work, and even in -40, a windproof shell (around 120$ at MEC) + fleece (on sale for 10$ wherever) + sweater + t shirt keeps me plenty warm on top; and long johns + fleece pants + windproof ski pants + wool socks + sorel boots (around 15 years old) keep me warm on the bottom.
I decided to invest in a good winter coat last year for the frigid Ottawa winters. My husband suggested Canada Goose. So I went to 3 shops to try on all the Canada Goose styles and ended up buying not Canada Goose but another Canadian brand — Quartz-Nature. Check it out http://www.quartznature.com/
I believe they are made with duck down, not goose. At least that is what my jacket says.
Definitely not worth it. You can get a coat of similar, exceptionally high quality from a number of brands such as Marmot for less than half the price, especially if you buy at the end of the season (they do go on sale). I used to want a CG coat, but at the same moment that I discovered its insanely high price and the fact that the hood was lined with coyote fur (Why? Cruelty for cruelty’s sake?), I started seeing them everywhere. Every poser in the world dawned their new status symbol, and I knew that CG was something to be avoided. Turns out that the vast majority of the CG jackets that you see on the street are counterfeit, but even if not, who really makes so much money that they can afford such an expensive jacket, especially when they live in southern Canada? Every time I see someone in one, I assume that they’re either a broke idiot desperately craving the approval of others, or a rich idiot who should have figured out a better use for their money.
I used to work at Transport Canada and saw all the Coast Guard guys wearing them (standard issue if you are in cold climates). I asked about them, and was told they were very good quality and very warm. Four years ago I bought my Canada Goose coat. It was worth it. It is in perfect shape, it is seriously warm (I sweat indoors, and feel no cold where I am covered by the coat. I can go for longer walks and handle the cold better than my non-CG wearing kin). Would I buy it again – yes. Do I hate everyone coveting my coat because it’s the in thing – yes, in fact I am always worried about someone stealing it, so I never leave it unattended when I’m out. That is the one issue I have with the coat!
Worth every cent… Period. Winter is finally enjoyable with my Goose. I’m in my 5th year with my jacket and it still in really good shape. I can see this jacket lasting many more years. I think it is a good ROI.
Absolutely good value for money. You get what you pay for. Frostbite and chilblains are no fun. I live in Ottawa and used to live in Winnipeg. Brrr!!! I walk 45 minutes to work, and 45 minutes back. I also walk in the neighbourhood and Experimental Farm’s Arboretum, 12 months of the year.
I don’t own a Canada Goose; I own a wonderful parka designed and made in Montreal – a Kanuk (http://new.kanuk.com/Article/femmes/orleans – $1060 with a detachable fur, including tax). My husband owns a Kanuk (http://new.kanuk.com/Article/hommes/kuujjuaq). Mine’s good to -30C; his to -40C. He’s owned his for about a decade, and it still looks and feels terrific. I expect my parka to last at least 10 years – maybe 20. That works out to only $50 to $100 per year for a fabulous WARM coat that’s also stylish.
People who spend all their time in cars can afford to wear wool coats, skimpy Chinese-made ski jackets and other flimsy outerwear. People who spend their time outdoors need something warmer. And for that you’re looking at something like Canada Goose or Kanuk.
Many of them are counterfeit! I doubt all of the CG coats I see on the TTC are actually $700 made-in-Canada coats.
These are absolutely the warmest coats I’ve worn. I also live in the Arctic, where weather conditions are often brutal. I’ve been outside in 80-100 km/h winds at -35/40 and been warm. The Coyote fur, is used so it doesn’t freeze to your face, it is there for a reason. My Canada Goose Snow Mantra coat $900 12 years ago. It is like new today and is still my go-to coat on extreme cold days.
I have been using a $99 flip phone for the past 5 years on a $100/yr plan. It still works fine and I just bought a new battery for it for 25 bucks. I recently thought about getting an iphone and was shocked to find out they cost $700 (or $80 x 12mo x 3years = $2800 with a 3 year plan)! I now often wonder why people spend so much money on these phones? Do they just have more money than what they know what to do with or are they trying to look cool. I’m sure there are some business people that truly do need them.
Why don’t we ever question the value of our phone services?
If I lived up north or in the praries again, I would absolutely buy one for basic practical comfort and survival, for which they would be a godsend. You can lose flesh on your cheeks and the snow is blinding, but ice crusts build with a scarf- the fur would have an actual use in that kind of weather unique to the west. Yet when I lived in Alberta, I never saw people wear anything so fine, it was Mark’s Work Wearhouse, and North Face if you were rich. Then I moved to Montreal and Good Lord, every second person on the street has the CanGoose jacket in -5 balmy weather and they are wearing nylons and heels- NO-ONE here needs one, yet EVERYONE has one, and it is worn obviously as a status symbol. I never saw such brazen displays of wealth and branding when I lived in the west, it truly seems to be a fallacy of the personally indulgent QC and ONT.
You can get the same warmth, quality and utility from an Eddie Bauer parka. I have had an Eddie Bauer parka for – wait – 31 years – and it is still the best coat I have ever had. 31 years! It was over $300.00 then – my Mom wanted me to be warm – but is not about the same amount. Great parka, great value.
The product us probably good, but being a commuter in downtown Montreal, I think kit is overkill. The best material in my opinion is felted wool. It stays warm, breathes (really important when you’re on the métro or bus), is very durable and doesn’t make you look like a Michelin man. Goes with everything.
I have a snow goose parka that has taken me through at least 15 Yellowknife winters. It is great for travelling to smaller communities as it stashes anywhere and is warm. It is also reasonably light and gives some protection to your face. It accessories well with down mitts, snow pants and wool, fur or fleece hats and scarves. In a pinch, you can stuff your wallet, cell phone, etc. in pockets. I didn’t know it was a fashion statement
Does it really cost 700 dollars to make a coat in Canada? Our economy is doomed if it does. Either that or there is an incredible markup on them. Either way, someone’s getting rich on these coats and I am not the sucker that’s going to help them.
Maybe the hard-working Canadians who make these are being paid 40 dollars an hour? Is that a reason to buy these coats?
Buy a cheaper coat from Eddie Bauer, or somewhere similar, it’s just as good and ripping off a Chinese seamstress is no more unethical than being ripped off yourself by a Canadian one.
I had always worn layers growing up in Saskatchewan prairie winters and never considered a parka before I moved to Nunavut. I changed my mind in a hurry once there as the temperature changes that making layer a good idea rarely happen. I paid $700 for my Snow Goose Parka in 2000 and it is the best investment I ever made.
The design is not intended to be a fashion statement it is functional, the design has an interior cummerbund to prevent cold air from being “pumped” in while you walk on cold days and I leave it undone on warmer days or if I am doing heavy work and want to temperature regulation. The pockets are huge and plentiful and I can stuff extra mitts and balaclava in the pockets for really cold days.
Living in Alberta now I do not wear it as often, but when the car gets plugged in the parka comes out. (-30C)
Molly, I would think four years is probably about average for adjusting to a different climate, so don’t be too quick to credit your CG coat for that…!
I grew up in Edmonton, where a good warm coat is a necessity. We had a closetful of parkas, including full-length down ones with coyote fur-lined hoods. Not for fashion – for warmth.
A CG bomber jacket is a fashion item. If you’re serious about staying warm, the coat has to cover your a&&.
I note that many down jackets & coats on offer these days, even those with expensive high-loft feathers, have cheap sewn-thru seams running through the fill. This defeats the whole purpose of using down. Loft is what will keep you warm.
I don’t need a serious winter coat in Vancouver, where I live now. But a couple of years ago in the spring, I picked up a nice thick synthetic coat, with hood, marked down to $85 at Mt Co-op. It’s very toasty, durable and has served me well on my forays into winter.
I bought a north face a few years back and it was quite warm and pretty good quality. I mainly used it for skiing. It costed me $250 and yes, it is made in China. I thought it was pretty expensive already, not to mention 700 bucks for a Canada Goose.
I found that the argument that the Goose will last for 10 years doesn’t hold water. Who will wear a coat for 10 years these days? Fashion changes!!! Obvsiouly those people have no proof that the Goose will last for 10 years to begin with.
I live in the arctic where this is required outerwear. In fact a tourist asked me if Canada Goose was a local employer upon seeing everyone in the arctic town wearing the brand. Winter temps and wind chills can plummet to -50C and the coat is worth every cent.
I’m a bit puzzled about those who pay so much money to wear a coat in relatively tropical environments such as Toronto. Maybe they are genuinely cold in the -5C weather.
Is a Louis Vuitton wallet worth it? Many people have wallets or purses worth more than what’s inside. Is any other designer label item worth it?
People who buy Canada Goose aren’t concerned with frugality.
PS. In comparison to other designer labels like Mackage, S&K, Moncler, etc. CG Coats give you better value.
A couple of years ago (when their popularity exploded) they switched most of their coats to duck down, not goose down. You are definitely paying for the label. Most of their competitors still use goose (e.g., North Face) for half the price.
over $300 in 1982 would be equivalent to over $650 today. Out of curiosity was your coat made in the USA or overseas. I had a look on the Eddie Bauer website and their down coats are going for $420 now but I IMHO the coats they are making now don’t look like they up to the quality of a Goose.
I have owned a Canada Goose parka for almost 7 years and I love it. Quality is fantastic and I can see it lasting over 10 years easily. Like anything else, Canada Goose is not for everybody. Some people will think nothing of spending the same amount of money ($700-800)for an iphone that they only use for messaging and playing angry birds, and then replace it in 2-3 years. I think it’s a fair price to pay for a good jacket that will last over a decade.
I live in a colder city in Canada and we routinely see -25C and colder. Sometimes those cold temps are combined with strong winds, so windchill is a problem. For longer-term activity outdoors in those conditions – whether you are doing outdoor winter photography, doing fieldwork as an environmental scientist or just taking the dog for a walk – there is nothing that keeps you warmer, gives you strong durability and offers the high utility (pocket layouts alone are perfect for extreme conditions!) of my Canada Goose Arctic Program Parka. Perfect for climates experienced in places like Winnipeg, Yellowknife, Edmonton, etc.
I’ve had mine for 3 years. I expect it will last me many, many more seasons to come!
I bought my CG parka bomber 5 years ago for $475, now its over $600. The jacket is great but too many are jumping on the band wagon and it has lost its appeal in the fashion department BUT it’s a great jacket for the winter and I plan on keeping mine for a long time.
I downhill ski in the winter and anyone who does that any length of time eventually acquires a good ski jacket (nothing like being stuck on a lift at -15C with a good wind blowing down the hill!). I don’t think I’ve ever paid more that $300 for a good jacket. And it has been warm enough to wear in Quebec City in February (just don’t have any exposed skin!).
If you are rolling in it, I’m sure it makes a nice jacket.
But sorry, it is a fashion statement.
I purchased the Canada Goose jacket in 2006.
I had just returned to Ontario from a 6 month sojourn in Europe where I learned about Canada Goose (ironic, no?). The Scandinavians had loved Goose gear since the 90s. I bought one, at that time, for $550 (no tax, boxing day sale).
My jacket is still in FULL commission. It is still super warm, and it is still super light. Further, they don’t make it in my blue-grey colour anymore.
Yes – I bought one for me and one for the wife, and no, we’re not made of money. The coat is versatile; if I need milk, I can walk to the store in a T-shirt and my Goose and be super warm and cozy. No hat or gloves needed in -40 Edmonton temps. It’s honestly like wearing a hug. There are other jackets that will keep you warm for less money, but the genuine features that CG brings to the table are worth it in my opinion to keep a great product and jobs in Canada. It’s amazing what we can come up with as a Nation if left to our own devices….and yes, that means things will cost more. That said, these coats are investments and hold their value well. Just my two cents.
MAKE SURE you look at the tag and see what temperature rating you’re getting – we bought Expeditions because we live in a very cold climate. Some are only good to minus 20 or so.
I’d like to say I’d never spend $700 on a coat, but I live in Victoria, BC and am completely ignorant to what “real” cold feels like.
I like to apply the $10 per hour rule for big expenses. Consider the things you are willing to pay at least $10 per hour for (movies, theatre, live sports – mostly entertainment). Now consider how much you will use the item you’re purchasing on an hourly basis. If you think you’ll get more than 70 quality hours out of your Canada Goose, then do it.
That said, I think they’re too expensive. I have a 3-in-1 Patagonia jacket that suits various degrees of cold/wet conditions and even though it’s on the pricey side of the category, it’s still only 2/3 the cost of a ‘cold only’ Canada Goose parka.
I live in the NWT, currently -41C before windchill, the Goose is a necessity.
I’ve been looking at CG for the past three years, and I noticed that the parkas that used to be 700-fill are now 650-fill, so the quality in terms of the down fill has definitely dropped. Also, be careful if you do decide to get one, as the warmth varies depending on the style. Kensington carries only a -10/-15C rating, while other less fashionable styles go down to -30C (at least on the manufacturer’s website).
No, I would not buy one of these jackets. This jacket sounds like a wonderful creature comfort for those spend less than 45 min at a time in cold weather, especially those who have to stay still for extended periods of time (supervising children on playgrounds, waiting for buses in cold, windy areas) but from a practical standpoint for those who are exposed for longer periods and being active I think this jacket fails. As an outdoor professional, I have worn this jacket to test it’s practicality for my needs and it is not suited for prolonged movement (which generates heat). The cuffs on the sleeves remain wet when snow melts on them (nothing like soggy wet cuffs for 5 hours a day while directly exposed to the elements). I’ve heard multiple complaints about it being too warm in this jacket while winter hiking and snowshoeing. This is a luxury jacket with a limited range of usefulness and so I have to only consider it in that context. If I only expect it to keep me warm when I’m still, then it passes with flying colours. Unfortunately, dressing more appropriately and in layers during inclement weather seems to make more sense. Canada gets cold, yes, but weather fluctuates and so a multi-functional wardrobe that reflects the weather will provide more pieces to work with. This will also provide anyone wishing to feel good about buying Canadian-made goods multiple opportunities to search out even more (multi-seasonal use) quality, locally sourced goods instead of one, single-function item-go on spenders, spend away! I likely wear over $700 worth of outdoor gear while I work, but that is a combination of many layers, some are throw-backs from the 70’s that I’ve scavenged from my dad’s closet. Also, as soon as weather dips low enough to consider one of these jackets, it baffles me that adults don’t protect themselves better using snow pants and other wind resistant layers from head to toe. Warm jackets will only get you so far if your legs and feet are still under-insulated. I have mostly observed wearers of this jacket sporting jeans and street shoes. We are role models for the youth we work with and for our peers. The last thing I want the young women I work with to feel is: as though they have to spend a hefty price to keep up with a trend, or that to appear “beautiful” I should avoid covering too much of my body to as to remain “fashionable” because who wants to look like a puffy androgynous mass walking down the street? and worse that I think a popular model, stripped bare, silenced and on display in an expensive jacket should provide enough of an argument for buying a product. I prefer the androgynous puffy (warm) mass, at least it’s practical and healthy. This is coming from someone who has had to learn how to dress, in winter weather, from cold-induced injuries from her youth.
No if you still have any oversize mortgage/car loan/student loan/credit card balance…etc.
No if from it’s from your parent’s pocket (not even you walk 10 miles to school everyday) or, your’re under 14 & growing.
No if you love wearing itchy sweater/layering underneath your coat.
No if you will buy a new coat every year to celebrate winter, and you love its woven label more than the coat in real.
No if you fancy a fashionable jacket, it’s not, it’s a utility coat, and there are many nicer designs on market trumping it.
(whether as brand or designing details)
Yes, if you can pay with cash, without leaving a balance on your credit card.
Yes, if travel light is your thing. With this coat, you can basically wear a T-shirt underneath.
Yes, if you work outdoor (or Artic) or have to rely on public transit in winter months in sub-urbs, where 45 mins bus interval is norm, (crazy, eh?)
Yes, if you don’t normally throw out a coat in case a zipper broke, CG’s repair/warranty save you $30-50 down the road.
Yes, if you love your duvet and refuse to get out of bed when winter comes…. (I know exactly how that feels)
Worth it or not? Consider the following,
If Bain can keeps this brand as real Canadian made, supporting local supply chain jobs /apparel businesses, not to get greedy and stray.
Estimated cost on material + CM to keep this coat made locally in Canada is about $100-120 per garment (depends on length and trims used) before mark up.
Retail margin in general sitting at 60-70% (est) for most retailers, ie, a $25 T-shirt cost $6.00-7.00 wholesale, the margin is used to pay rent, overheads, fund required inventory and markdown.
Discount giants has much lower mark up, 25-30% (est) but they can return under perform inventory to vendors (on agreed terms) and asked for roll back discount to push sales.
You think you pay an arm and a leg for a GC coat, think twice.
By proration, you are paying as much for a cheap import T-shirt at any discounter.
I bought a Canadian military parka at a used Army and Navy store in Kingston in the 1960’s.
I put it on this morning to clear the driveway. It has never let me down in cold weather whether in Edmonton or Ottawa.
I have told the family i want to be cremated in it, they still think I am joking – I’m not!
I own a CG Heli Artic parka, nine years old now, and it looks 2 years old at most. I’ve had to darn the elastic cuffs, but the rest of the parka looks near mint. I’ll let you know in 20 or so years, when the coat wears out, if the $550 I paid for it was worth the value. But as it stands right now this is one of the best made pieces of clothing I have ever owned. It’s the little details that really make it stand out, like down runs beneath the zipper to stop the cold from getting through. Or the waist belt to seal off the interior of the jacket from updrafts, or the kidney pockets for warming packets for the really cold weather. Details like this go on and on with this jacket.
it’s a personal choice. I live in Northern Manitoba, spend close to an hour walking daily so I get a ton of use out of my CG jacket, I got a full length with hood and really appreciate the large handwarming pockets and oversized hood so even in the worst wind it keeps me warm. I also selected a coat with reflective striping because it’s dark 19 hours a day now. Of course I have to pair it with appropriate boots, wind pants, and mitts but even -35 is fine. my last jacket was an old columbia that I re-lifed once by getting the zippers replaced. I have about 7 years use of this jacket and anticipate lots more. In my experience the coat has a lot of value due to it’s quality and materials, I accept that made in Canada has an extra price that I can afford, and as trapping is an important way of life here have no personal problem with fur trim. The cost of ownership for me will be much less than $100/year and I get lots of use out of it.
Who knew this many people would feel impelled to comment on this?
Its an anomaly for sure. Who would have guessed that an expensive Canadian made product could be so popular. I’m sure there is a Grinch somewhere look down on us wondering what all the fuss is about.
I live in Yellowknife. As I write this, it is -39 (real temperature, not windchill). I decided to take the plunge and get a CG Westmount – and I don’t regret it one bit. I note, though, that there was really no competition for the Westmount, since there is no other company that makes a full-length Men’s parka (I looked all over). CG also has some other parkas for extreme cold (Snow Mantra) which aren’t matched by competitors. They are niche products.
If you’re looking for a 3/4 length parka for cold (but not South-Pole cold) weather, there is lots of competition (Helly Hansen, MEC, North Face, Skookum, just to name a few) although the top end of those brands is close to CG in price. If I had a choice, I would have gone with a different brand, since I find CG are ugly, I hate that silly patch, I hate looking like I’m trying to be “trendy”, the Men’s colours are boring, the fabrics are unsophisticated, and othe brands often have better design features. But I didn’t have a choice. The Westmount is the only product of its kind, as is the Snow Mantra.
So, is a CG worth it? Yes, IF there is no other brand in which you can find a comparable product. Otherwise, probably not.
My wife bought me a Canada goose coat morevthan 15 years ago before they were considered a status symbol
Best coat I ever had , still wearing it
It’s stillin great shape
Paying for a quality winter coat is a good purchase. However you can buy a Northface or Colombia coat for half the price, or buy 2 of them for the same price as the canada goose jacket.
So no, I do not think it’s worth it.
Kerry, like you I try to live frugally, but there are things to spend on, and things to splurge on. This is one of the latter. If you know that the quality is solid, that it will last you a lifetime, that the brand is reliable, and that you will need it for more than one month every year–absolutely. Make the choice by realizing that it’s a piece of survival gear as opposed to fashion gear, figure how long you’ll have it, and decide how many other things you’d have to supplement a cheaper coat with just to stay warm, and you probably have your answer. Cold is not just tough to deal with–it can be dangerous, and a quality, well-made coat is not just an accessory–it’s a tool. Go for it.
I live in Inuvik, which is north of the Arctic Circle, in the Northwest Territories. I bought a Canada Goose Resolute parka a few years ago. Stylish it is not. One web site describes it as the industrial parka of the North. The current replacement price is $845.00. Earlier this week, with the temperature at minus thirty degrees Celsius, I was outside for about ninety minutes and was comfortable for all of that time. I don’t own a vehicle and walk pretty much everywhere in town so the Resolute parka is both comfortable and financially sensible.
By the way, if I were you, I’d buy the white one you’re pictured in just cos you look hot in it.
For those who say they purchased the jacket for its “quality”, I wonder if they would still buy it without the Canada Goose crest.
I think most people buy them to be trendy, show off their status. Remove that crest, and no one would know how cool you are. Thus, it’s all about the crest and the brand and not really about the quality.
I’ll agree that the coat itself is a quality product, but overpriced and overhyped and overkill for the typical Canuck winter.
I agree we need GOOD coats in ‘real’ Canada (sorry, SW BC!) But you can get a very high quality down jacket or coat that will last for years at MEC for far less than this. And everything at MEC is ethically sourced. At least half the price for Canada Goose is for the status!
Thats basically 90% of my tax payment for my condo.
I live north & west of Ottawa and spend at least 3 hrs every morning/evening 7/365 exercising my mutts and myself in the surrounding countryside. In winter, much of that time is fully exposed to wind in sections where there are open fields or the Ottawa River stretching off into the distance. The weather-lady on TV said that it was minus 30-something with windchill the other day. There may be a week or so later in winter when it’ll get down to minus 40 or so.
And yet, so far this year, it hasn’t been cold enough to warrant wearing something like a Canada Goose parka.
I’d end up taking it off before 15 minutes are up. In the past thirty years of living here, I can count the number of times on one hand where such a parka might be suitable.
I have a wolf-fur trimmed Hudson’s Bay parka that was given to me as a gift about 40 years ago and I can’t remember the last time I felt a need to wear it.
Generally, a fleece pullover under a wind-resistant shell (with toque, good mitts and insulated boots of course) is all that is required to stay plenty warm.
Bottom line: I suspect that the $700 Canada Goose parkas in the Banana Belt that is the GTA are more about Gucci-ness than about good sense or utility.
I bought a $1200.00 version for ice fishing, and when needed this coat is worn, twenty below and colder.. it will last 20 plus years, and i luv it… somedays u can curl up and have a nice afternoon snooze as it is like being wrapped and a 5 star sleeping bag, gotta luv winter and made in Canada!
I have one and I love it. I have a long walk from where I park to my office and it keeps me toasty. I think of it as an investment as I do live frugally. This is my second Winter wearing it and it’s like new. It’s good quality and made in Canada. So the people making it are being paid at least minimum wage, not locked into a garment factory in some poor country. I expect it to last a long time. I only recently let go of a wool coat that was expensive but I had it for 25 years. So I expect to see this one last me just as long. In some cases, and I believe this is one, you get what you pay for.
I bought mine 8 years ago and it’s still going strong. I absolutely love it–it has made all the difference in me actually enjoying being out in the freezing -30’c temps in North Bay as opposed to hiding in my apartment all winter. I also love that it is (er, was…) a Canadian product.
I can’t argue that it’s better than cheaper parkas, because it’s the only parka I’ve really owned, but I have no complaints. And I bought mine before the surge of popularity in the last few years.
I went to Burlington Coat Factory in Buffalo NY. Bought two down coats, one long Pepe Jeans and the other short. Paid $100 for each one. You can’t do better than that. They are now 8 years old and still in pristine shape.
I would NEVER spend that kind of money on a coat that everybody is wearing and frankly looks like a coat the postal workers wear.
I bought my coat at MEC and it is rated for -40C. I paid $400 for it I’ve had it for 5 years and I’m warm as toast and I don’t look like a postman.
Go to MEC and save 50%!!!!
Bain Capital is MITT ROMNEY! Was interested until I read Bain…..he should have released his taxes….not an honest family, not only to taxpayers but his church…what is 10% of a made up income? Wake up Canada!
I bought a Canada Goose jacket after my first winter in Edmonton. I’d moved there for work, and I walked back and forth from work 1/2 an hour each way. After borrowing a number of jackets and Parkas for a test run, I shelled out the $700. With proper hat, cloves and scarf, I agree, it’s perfectly possible to be just as warm in a cheaper coat OR I could be just as stylish in a cheaper coat, but I’d have to drive in to work on cold days.
To combine both (and thus save the exorbitant parking fees) I’m happy with my purchase and it keeps me warm from head to mid calf. That said, I can’t wear it unless it’s -18.
I’ve worn them in the past and would buy one for things like snowshoeing and winter hikes but they’re too bulky for everyday wearing.
I’m still wearing a “Pioneer” brand I bought in 1975. It has 680 grams of premium quality down that is as warm as the day I bought it…which also means it’s too warm for anything less than -25C. To the best of my knowledge it cost $300 in ’75, so today I suspect it would be closer to $1000! I have to say it has been worth every penny. $300/ 38yrs. = $7.89/yr.
It depends what you are looking for. I wanted a calf length down coat to wear with my kids when we’re outside playing. At the time, it was hard to find another like it in any other brand. I sat on the thought of buying CG for ages due to the high cost and then took vacation payout to do so. It has changed the way I think of winter! I love it and would do it again in a heartbeat. The coat will last forever.
Canada Goose has become a snobbish brand sought-after and worn by people who feel better wearing brands that others recognize. Canada Goose is now the Louis Vuitton purse of jackets.
You can buy nicer looking, identically-performing parkas for cheaper. And you don’t have to be a brand-whore/douche.
Bought years ago. So far it has cost me $12.00 per winter month. Best money I have ever spent. Wasted money on a sequence of North face, Columbia, arcteryx and other jackets. Never kept me warm. Now I Can go out in -30 no prob. Clothing is one of the few items that has dropped in price in the last 10 – 20 years and most of it is cheap garbage now. Buy a few quality pieces (CG / Italian suits etc…) for life instead of stuffing your closets with cheap WalMart H&M crap that falls apart after 1-2 years.
Canada Goose has become a snobbish brand sought-after and worn by people who feel better wearing brands that others recognize. Canada Goose is now the Louis Vuitton purse of jackets.
You can buy nicer looking, identically-performing parkas for cheaper.
As someone who works up north (I’m talking tundra), the value of these kind of coats cannot be expressed. I bought with a Nobis (I liked the style better) but the price was about the same. Just yesterday walked home 2.5 km in -35 (wind chill made it below -40). I wore 3 layers of pants (long johns, jeans, and snow pants to block the wind. My legs were still cold. What did I need under my jacket? A dress shirt. That’s it. Toasty warm up top.
They are very nice I agree, but I can’t justify the expense, I got myself a nice Army winter parka for cheap, not fashionable I suppose but lots of pockets, very light, super warm, not afraid to dirty it, and made in Canada.
Canada Goose is abhorrent. Just check out Fur Trim is a Trap to learn more about Canada Gross.
To anyone who thinks coyotes are “killed anyway”, think again. Trappers kill them for pelts they can sell. Canada Goose kills coyotes specifically for their fur and we make the excuse that “they are abundant”.
So basically what we’re saying is an animal is only worth its life if it’s endangered? How about an animal is worth it’s life because it’s a living, sentient, being?
FACTS for you about trapping: Animals may suffer up to TWO weeks in a trap before a trapper comes around, meaning they will die a slow, painful death from starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, and/or predation. Also, traps don’t pick and choose who it kills—often dogs and cats are trapped unintentially. Say goodbye to Spot and Mittens!
PS- Less than 2% of trapped furs come from First Nations trapping in Canada. Over 2.3 million animals are killed via trapping or on fur farms in Canada EVERY YEAR.
I work in the Yukon, currently -40. Do I have a Canada Goose – hell yes!
Jay says that (s)he’d buy one for hiking or snowshoeing.
Anytime I’ve been hiking or snowshoeing (one or the other of which I do every day in winter) I find that I’m having to remove clothing after the first half hour or become uncomfortably hot.
A full-length, hooded goose down parka would be a ridiculous choice of garment for such activities IMO. It’d end up being left to hang on a tree to be picked up later rather than have to schlep the thing around strapped to your back or something.
It’s a pretty $700 coat, and probably very warm. However, after spending a day in Vancouver shopping for a coat, I think it might be a modern day version of the status-building fur coat of old. Seriously, there are plenty of warm coats available out there (I recently bought the same Marks Car Coat on sale mentioned in a comment above, and it is delighfully cozy and water/wind proof to boot) that cost a LOT less.
I do like the fact that it is made in Canada, though.
Fortunately there are expensive things to separate the worlds privileged from their money.,
I got one for myself 3 years ago – paid $650 so now $220 a year and will continue for some time. Got one for my 28 yr old daughter for Christmas last year and every cold day (she walks about 30 mins each way per day) she messages me and thanks me over and over for the best coat ever. Status symbol .. whatever – some would say Kanuk is as well. It’s a great coat and not to say others are not as good but it’s still a great coat.
Worth every penny. I got mine on sale (it does happen occasionally) and it was over $800. Warmest thing I’ve ever owned. Great company.
7 winters in northern alberta with temperatures down to -40 oftentimes, plus windchill… the first 5 miserable. and then i bought my canadian goose parka. so yes, you pay price for quality, as with everything else.
and i have come from a country where -10 is rare and -15 makes the national assembly gather and announce crisis situation, so for me to say, that i am no longer cold is really something.
Spent 8 hours on the tundra near Resolute Bay. Being SK born and raised, and having spent a couple years in Lynn Lake Mb I thought I knew cold. After 6 hours in my “arctic approved ” gear I was feeling the chill. Two of my colleagues had their Canada Goose gear – never felt a thing. I became a believer that day.
Only douche bags wear Canada Goose.
NO! I bought a Canadian made PowderRoom winter coat that is crazy warm and super stylish. I feel way more fashionable than those who follow the crown and I have NO blood on my hands. Canada Goose is a sham.
NO NO NO the cruelty in this coat is the reason I would NEVER consider wearing it. The geese are plucked alive for their down !! and coyotes don’t deserve to die an early and horrible death. When there are compassionate options why pay an enormous amount to be part of a this nastiness?
Canadian Goose equals animal cruelty. Say no to fur!
I wouldn’t buy a Canada Goose jacket, even if it was the cheapest jacket available, because it uses real fur from animals caught in leghold traps and down ripped from the bodies of living birds. People talk about the financial costs, but too few of them consider the fact that the animals these jackets are made of suffered terribly and paid with their lives!
I live in the NWT, and travel almost every winter to the Arctic Coast – Inuvik, Kugluktuk, Cambridge Bay, Gjoa Haven, etc.
Have had a Canada Goose parka for 20 years+, and Woods before that, in temperatures that are often below -40 w/o windchill. My CG has kept me warm for 3+ hours at -43 with 30 km/hr wind, or while I am climbing around on large metal satellite dish mounts. I am on my third now, but as mentioned I use them to WORK outside. Well worth the price up here for that.
If I was in TO or Vancouver or Montreal? Probably not.
As for the “real fur” comments? A coyote is a predator – they just love catching and eating those cutesy little cats and dogs. They kill and eat animals every day. Turnabout is fair.
I’m really sad that there are so many people willing to make snap judgments of complete strangers based on the brand of coat they wear…
I’m sure that some people will buy Canada Goose for status, but many people buy CG as a pragmatic or ethical decision. I got a big tax return this year, and being poor, I’ve never had a high quality winter coat, so I decided a parka would be a wise investment. Canada Goose manufactures entirely in Canada, where we have adequate labor laws, and sources the down and fur in Canada as well, where we have animal welfare laws. I’d personally rather support the regulated trapping of an over-populated animal than the manufacture of synthetic fur – no one likes the thought of an animal dying, but death is a part of the process of everything we consume, fake fur included. Habitats are destroyed, damaged and polluted by industry, plain and simple. Thankfully the coyotes were not farmed and subjected to cruelty for the entirety of their lives, unlike other fur animals.
I’m certainly not innocent of purchasing new garments made by underpaid workers in the third world, but I knew I was going to fork over a lot of money on a good parka either way, and paying extra for the knowledge that fellow Canadians made a decent wage off of it was worth it for me. Turns out the thing is damn warm, too. Make fun of this Torontonian if you want, but I volunteer outdoors all winter, frequently after dark, and the work doesn’t get done if I wimp out during a cold snap. This past January it was below -20 when I was outside for two hours without a proper parka. I will not be caught unprotected this year.
Ranting aside, a suggestion for people looking to save money on a truly warm winter parka: check your local Kijiji or Craigslist. Lots of people are trying to unload good parkas, CG included, that are gently used and can be purchased for less than the retail value. Also means that you support a neighbour instead of a garment manufacturer!
YES- I bought one of these long long ago and it’s still superb. I’ve replaced bits and pieces of it over the years and the service from Canada Goose has always been excellent.
As for it being an expensive jacket, that’s only true if you get rid of it while it’s still useful, or ruin it somehow. Based on the price I’ve paid and the time I’ve had it, it cost about $50 a year. (When I bought mine they weren’t $700, by the way.)
Treat it well and it’ll serve you well.
When I gave up my car and started transiting everyday after to moving to Toronto 4 years ago – on my second winter without a car -my friend left on a vacation and lent me her CG jacket just to “try out”. I bought one the day she came home.
The people who say they are NOT worth the cost or just they’re just a “status symbol” obviously have NEVER OWNED ONE.
I’ve lived in Edmonton, Calgary etc as well as Toronto. Toronto DOES get cold. For those out west – it’s freaking cold yes -40? Yikes. Been there. Done that. However at -15 in Toronto right beside Lake Ontario it’s BONE CHILLING COLD. A damp, wet cold that you sometimes cannot shake even after having been home and indoors for 30 minutes.
Canada Goose jackets are well worth every penny – and after having a countless number of other types of jackets – Canada Goose is simply DIFFERENT.
For the commuter who doesn’t drive? No question. It’s basically one monthly car payment (gas, parking, insurance and car payment) and will save you the pain of ever feeling so cold you can’t stand it.
If you really want to know if a Canada Goose is worth it – only ask those who own one. Lol. Plain and simple. Otherwise it’s like asking a Vegetarian what a Stiploin vs a Sirloin tastes like.
i bought a “Ripzone” down parka i bought for $150 on sale at sporting life about 7 years ago and it has lasted me and still keeps me warm. canada goose are generally considered laughable by everyone who doesn’t own one. near queen and spadina they are endemic. everyone has one which makes me think they are a trend that will fad out.
Well said H!
Oh and another thing, on the CG website it states “we never use down from live-plucking and only purchase down that comes as a by-product from the poultry industry”
I’m sure that some ‘other’ companies do buy down obtained by live plucking however.
I am always cold and received the Canada Goose parka I now wear 5 years ago for Christmas. I speed walk in much -40 weather in Northwestern Ontario, and I have loved this parka from the first time I wore it. I could care less about status but really like the fact that it’s sourced and produced in Canada. I will pay more for products that are manufactured that way in the hopes of keeping jobs in Canada. I was disappointed with the Bain takeover and will now think about whether this product will be replaced when it wears out.
I have three…yes 3 ..Canada goose coats/jackets. One is 7 years old..one is 5 and the other 4 yrs. Each used at 20, 30, and 40 frikkin below Celsius in saskatchewan. I am never cold. Keeps the coyote population manageable with all that fur going east. A chilliwack, resolute and arctic something. Never paid more than $400 at a hunting store…but I buy in June/July ..not in the dead of winter or pre xmas.
I bought a down-filled Eddie Bauer Storm Blocker parka in 1983 for $350 and I still wear it. Its excellent workmanship has stood the test of time. No rips, no tears and the seams have held fast. The amount I paid likely equates to the $700 charged for the Canada Goose jacket today. Quality lasts. If you can afford this jacket, get it.
Air Inuit, is based out of Montreal. They are the airline to northern Quebec. They service the Inuit communities and Hydro Quebec facilities and all the ground staff, and pilots are given CG jackets with the AI logo embroidered on them. If they trust the jacket then it must be good.
Canadian made….uh….temporary foreign workers brought in to do the manufacturing in Canada. Underpaid and exploited with the promise of permanent residency keeping them working. Take a look at our clothing industry in Canada sometime, and the thousands of people brought in for “temporary” work for the textile and fashion industry. Google it sometime you might be surprised.
I recently bought a CG parka this year after my second year living in a fly-in community in Northern Manitoba, my ten year old snowmobile jacket just wasn’t cutting it in the -45 weather. I used to have to turn down participating in outdoor activities like snowshoeing and ice fishing (no huts up there), simply because just walking to the event was so brutal I’d have to abort. It’s been a good investment for me, I bought it because it works and someday I see myself living in Nunavut where it’s even colder. I also really like the fact that it’s supporting Canadian families. When the weather hits and I have to go check the traps lines I know I’ll be warm this winter.
Anyone who has lived in the north knows that there is no jacket that compares to the CG Expedition or Resolute. I can’t comment on their bomber and lighter jackets. We have been living in the Arctic for the last 4 years and I walk to work in my parka with a t-shirt on underneath. I can even make it without mitts or a hat if my hood is up and my hands are in the the chest pockets. We visited Toronto recently and I felt silly in my big parka until I realised that everyone there is wearing them too… Not sure if its really necessary for a southern climate but for sure everyone up here wears them and they are a life-saver!
If one values Canada made, if one values longevity, if one needs warmth, it is probably worth it. I bought a Kanuk coat some 22 years ago at a price of about 500$ (so long ago I only vaguely remember the price). Love walking along the river at -25c with it . Walked to work, took the bus drove the car.. wore it to the NAC orchestra,.. name it. The coat has protected me, made winter enjoyable, and is in line with what I value.
I’m on my second Canada Goose Jacket in thirty five years and don’t regret buying it for one minute. Worth every penny when you’re standing and working outside in Toronto for minimum 12 hours a day on a film shoot in the winter you will know what I mean. If you see a film crew in winter you’ll see a lot of Canada Goose on set. I also have a full length North Face that doesn’t keep me half as warm.
Here’s an EXTREMELY simple question:
Have you ever encountered someone who owns and wears and Canada Goose jacket who has EVER said, “Meh, I’ve had warmer coats.” ??
Toronto Gal (above) has it right. You really cannot ask anyone who has never owned (or better yet, worn) a Canada Goose jacket.
Also – animal cruelty? Honestly. If you eat chicken, any dairy products, beef, pork or own a pair of leather shoes or an expensive bag – then you’re a walking, talking hypocrite.
Stay warm. Get a Canada Goose. :))
I live in the arctic and it’s the only coat that stands the test without fail – gotta have one. As to the fur trim, in Toronto perhaps it’s a fashion statement, but up here, that trim is what breaks the harsh wind and you’d have windburn in a minute without it. Nothing beats natural fur. Nothing. Don’t like to use natural fur? Stay cozy in the south, so I don’t have to hear about how cold you are.
Not worth it. People who think that the extra cost goes towards manufacturing/sourcing in Canada and that the workers in mills + factories are getting paid more than what other companies would paid are simply… naive.
I used to work for a company who sold spandex pants as premium yoga pants for 100 dollars. You think they paid their workers more than minimum wage in Bangladesh? Naive. The cost goes towards nothing but your own status symbol.
JJ I’m not sure I understand your point. If an item is mfg in Canada the Canadian gov’t ensures that the workers make at least minimum wage. I sometimes pay more for items that are made in Canada because I see it as supporting the society that I rely on. It generally means that I go without sometimes in order to afford the things I want. I also appreciate that regulatory (eg toxins found in dyes etc.) and environmental standards are higher here.
BTW minimum wage in Bangladesh is $38 … per month.
I used to live in Inuvik, NT where I first learned about Canada Goose parkas, nothing else could come close to there warmth. Other brands were rarely found in Inuvik because they didn’t cut it. So yes, I think they are worth the money in extreme weather conditions since nothing else can compare. But I live further south now, and I think there value goes south the further south you get. However if you do buy one, and happen upon occasional bad weather, you’ll be taken care of better than anyone else.
So Your contribution to this debate was what exactly? There wasn’t anything in this article that anyone with access to google couldn’t find out themselves. This is what’s wrong with media these days; finding a fad then regurgitating all the information we already know back at us.
Canadian Made…I frankly must disagree. If Canadian citizens are unwilling to do the work for the wages offered, and foreign unskilled labour must be brought in to work at uncompetitive wages, there is a problem. They are forced to work for employers at low wages with the promise of permanent residence for them and their immediate family, that is called indentured employment. Indentured employment is the equivalent of legalized modern slavery. You can look at the live in caregiver programs in Canada, Tim Hortons hiring practices, the Royal Bank, or the coal mining industry. We are on a slippery decline to becoming America with huge income inequalities with unskilled foreign nationals being exploited. In terms of the cost of living in Canada versus the cost of living in Bangladesh, you do the math. Foreign workers want a better life for their children, while they are subjugated in the Canadian textile industry. I have children and I would do anything to ensure they will enjoy a good life.
what’s wrong with made in china? I really hope you could afford more not made in china, the thing is: you wish you could! but you could not for the rest of your life! your stereotype made in china bashing is pathetic!
Couldn’t agree more, pay the people in China and Bangladesh the same wages as Canadians or don’t let their stuff into this country. That to me is true and fair globalization.
I was saving up to buy one until I read in this article that the brand was sold to a US company. Now I won’t buy one. One of the reasons I was willing to dish out the $ was to support a Canadian business. So, I will always support Mountain Equipment Coop in Calgary. Excellent products, support, and knowledge on outdoor gear. It’s a coop owned by members.
I actually have a MEC parka that was made in Canada. Its too bad that they no longer carry down coats made in Canada. Personally I don’t care who owns a company so long as they manufacture the goods here. So many companies are publically traded anyway, its hard to know who they belong to. I often wonder if MEC is really just a distributer.
One good thing about MEC though is that they do sell quite a bit of stuff made in Canada.
Was waiting out Northern Store in Moosonee for the doors to open one evening for Midnight Madness. Looked around at what people waiting in the cold were wearing. Not sure I saw a single Canada Goose jacket. There are a few but most people here tend to layer, wear cheaper parkas or have an incredible tolerance to cold that lets them wander around in light jackets and bareheaded in the winter. This morning wind chill was minus 47 here.
In this case, you get what you pay for.
Year three, no regrets at all. Hockey arenas, walks, with dog, just out and about. I like being warm and this does the trick.
Added the vest last year…again got my money’s worth.
Try Quartz Nature same coat as Canada Goose minus the logo$.
Seems to be a pretty steep price to be fashionable and warm. While they may have a lifetime warrantee on CG jackets, I suspect lots of people are buying them because everyone else is toting them so it’s cool to be seen in one and look smart.
Even if they are warm, wait for the styles to change and the market moves on to the next trendy thing…customers will be dumping their jackets after a few short years when it’s no longer “cool” to be seen wearing one (think: Levi’s jeans) regardless of the functional factor at which point, the lifetime warrantee becomes a moot point. The prices will drop considerably and that’s the time to start looking for a quality CG jacket at a reasonable “value” for price. Of course, there will be a certain segment who shop purely on utilitarian function where style (and price) are secondary and will hang on to their CG regardless.
For now, my MEC down filled winter jacket keeps me toasty warm after seeing it’s 4th winter in the prairies and I only paid 1/3 the price.
Hi Kerry, I am glad to find your blog on this topic, as I am about to pull a trigger on a CG parka tomorrow.
I am sticker shocked when I first saw the price of a CG, even got upset by learning that they were never on sale, which prompted me looking high and low for alternatives.
3 weeks into my research on several ‘top’ name brands; down jackets/parkas I came across feels very rough, heavy and bulky. I felt being swallowed by the jacket and none fits too well, everything looks unbalanced or lopsided.
The CG parka snugs incredible on me, there are no gaps (under arms and back), the soft lining is addictive, and the best part is the body shell of the CG being firm and smooth but not stiff. I love the coyote fur brushes my face.
Indeed CGs are very overpriced, the quality is incredible and it fits like no other. I am lucky to be able to afford one, by not spending on anything else (as a sacrifice) this Christmas.
CG claims never giving a discount; I am going to tear this parka apart for what its worth by being extremely critical. If otherwise, I am going to voice my disappointment so loud that it will make the evening news.
I am still sticker shocked on its price, but am willing to give this snooty company a go by being their worse nightmare customer.
Thanks for making this blod topic. Your eyes look incredible through your white Kensington.
I’m from Northern Michigan, which is no Canada, but it’s chilly. I’m not outside a ton, but I usually don’t wear a coat. When I have to, it’s usually just a fleece. I wouldn’t ever spend $700 on a coat. Never.
i guess they’re worth the warmth but for the same price I could buy a beautiful wool/cashmere coat and not look like I’m going out to shovel snow. CG coats are strictly utilitarian – no style or fashion. I think they;re hideous and everyone has them. I gues we don’t get to be stylish when we live in hell, aka CANADA.
Bought a Sears Knock off. It’s very warm during ice storms with no power thus no heat (thank you Ontario Hydro). Can’t see why I would pay $700 when I have this great looking WARM coat for $199.
I bought a $250 Hudson’s Bay down parka 26 years ago and still wear it. It was well made and has had only one stitching repair in that time. Amortized over that time I am now spending $9.61 a year on a warm coat. It sounds to me that this Canada Goose parka is a very good deal. It is not for the short sighted.
I think that truth is that the people who have purchased a CG parka would be loathe to admit to themselves or anyone else that it was not “worth it”.
As with vehicle purchases, there is always a segment of the population who thinks that paying the premium for a Mercedes or BMW assures one a superior product but the reality is that that assumption is not based on fact. Or there are those who like to believe that owning the brand gives them some sort of prestige in the eyes of others. Different strokes …
I know for a fact that I can put on $300 (or less) worth of garments and be as warm or warmer than someone in CG parka. Dressing warmly isn’t rocket science.
In fact, I also know that the $300 ensemble would be more versatile than a CG parka because I’d be able to remove/add layers as the level of activity & heat generated demands.
Although I do own a few heavy duty parkas (all given to me as gifts), they’ve seen very little use simply because I’ve not felt the need for they protection they provide.
There might be a week’s-worth of days throughout the entire winter where minus forty degree temps and wicked winds might justify wearing such a parka but the reality is that those days/nights are few and far between.
Now that Canada Goose products aren’t the only brand around that make warm down parkas with a nice fur hood trim. If you look hard enough there are plenty to choose from (whether it is Canadian made, US made, etc ..). They are just as warm and of course with varying quality and prices. Canada Goose (CG) has become a fashion and status symbol, it’s quite sickening too see. During Christmas holidays, everywhere I look is the same black CG fur jacket. These rich kids and rich parents with deep pocket is the epitome of (what’s the opposite of superficial and spoiled??).
But here’s my top pick of Canadian-made parka:
– http://cmfrcanada.com/ … High quality! I’ve got one of these.
– http://www.mooseknucklescanada.com/ … (website is NSFW!!!) also good quality and distinctive in their style
– http://www.nobis.ca/ … also very nice stuff.
There are a few others but I believe these are the main contenders (more like alternatives) to CG. These top dogs are great alternatives and have been proven to be of serious quality without the marketing pricing of CG.
I live in winnipeg, so we have temperatures drop below -40 a lot of time. I used to buy $200 jackets every year and still had to wear a bunch of layers to stay warm. Paying $700 for goose was the best investment. No more cold in our cold winters. I don’t bus, I drive but have lots of walking to do between university buildings. Canada goose really keeps me warm!! If anyone is not sure to buy it or not I would say go for it. Yes, it may seem expensive but I’ve never had a warmer jacket.
DO NOT BUY CANADA GOOSE!
I had my brand new Canada Goose Parka since the 26th December, 5 days ago.
I am sorry to report that I got ROYALLY RIPPED OFF.
The CG is NOT warm, considering its price quite poorly made and worse of all their customer service is deplorable.
The warm image is pure psychological, because I just spend $800 cash on it.
The coyote fur hood zipper is misaligned with the jacket, making a gap which the cold wind leaks; also the hood kept falling or too pulled backwards; annoying and uncomfortable. Twice emailed to CG customer service was ignored; with a pretentious to be prestigious company like CG, it is unacceptable that their slow in response is may be because of the holidays.
Today I wore my 6 year old GAP down parka (on sale $59.99 back 2006) to shovel my driveway, I immediately sensed this old jacket is MUCH warmer!
I took my CG parka to compare at Sportnlife, seen the exact same problem with the shoulders. There is no or very thin down in that area. The staff told me that is how it is made, the down is heavy and falls, thus the shoulders have no down coverage. A bunch of crap.
Lastly the buying experience from Dew-west store (authorized dealer), my $800 jacket was shoved into a plain white plastic bag like chopped liver, there is no garment bag or hanger. How glorious.
Question for Shauna:
So you wear your CG when you walk the dog on -36 C windy days – what is your dog wearing???
I don’t understand why you would need to walk the dog in this kind of weather. I don’t live in the same climate (this morning, windchill included, it was -17 C) – my dog does a quick pee and then runs to the back door.
Would I buy a CG parka?
I don’t think so. First, I would cry over the killed coyote whose fur is on the hood. Second, I find it way to expensive.
Perhaps I would change my mind if I had to spend extended time periods outside in Manitoba or Saskatchewan. I drive to work so I don’t have to wait for municipal transport but I believe there must be equally good products for less $.
This fall, I lucked out and I bought a Calvin Klein down-filled winter jacket ($99 at Marshalls). Of course it does not come even close to CG but for me, it works (I needed a new one because sadly, I gained some weight and the old one does not fit any more).
I also have a faux fur short coat from Laura’s (not a store where I shop on a regular basis) and I have to tell you that it is not only very fashionable (I get compliments from complete strangers on it all the time) but it is also incredibly warm. Again, I am sure at -40 it would not protect me for very long but I am very pleased with it. (I think it was $190 [a sale price] when I purchased it 5-6 years ago.
I am sure the CG parka is a great product but I wonder if the people who really need it can afford it. The price tag is still very high.
I have bought Northface, Columbia and Patagonia jackets in the past for less money to han the Canada Goose jackets I bought my Wife and myself this year; they were all made in Overseas, not as well constructed, not as well warranteed and not as warm. The price difference is understandable when you see the sturdy construction and realize it is also repairable by the manufacturer, and with some care it will last a lifetime. I used to layer up more; the folks on here saying that layering with cheaper stuff is good enough have never worn one of these jackets. If I layer at all, I get too hot. Well worth the investment for a quality jacket that will last a lifetime, vs. going through cheaper jackets every 10 years and being cold all along the way. I bet you will spend just as much in the long run.
“If I layer at all, I get too hot.”
” I bet you will spend just as much in the long run.”
This person is either unclear on the concept of layering or is simply spouting untruths.
The point of layering is, aside from being able to dress appropriately for a given situation, that one can remove or add layers as necessary.
ie A person might start out with 4 layers on a 6 hour excursion in minus 40 deg weather to stay sufficiently warm initially but will likely find that an hour or so out, (s)he will have warmed up as a result of activity and may feel a need for less insulation so will peel off a layer or layers to avoid getting “too hot” (in Manny’s words)… then maybe a few hours later after cooling down as a result of being a little less active, they may feel the need to put back on some layers.
Putting all of one’s eggs into one CG basket is like saying winter only comes in one possible scenario — it’s minus 40 all winter and a people remain sedentary all winter — clearly a ridiculous proposition.
It doesn’t apply to all of course, but as I noted earlier, here in the arctic, we’ve got a good 4 months (at least of -40, been -50 since the beginning of December) of solid cold. CG has it’s place and perhaps that’s not in the south (of Canada). To those who have complained of lesser quality with CG, I’m thinking the “fashion” items aren’t as well made as the ones we get up here as there are different styles of coat. The product is well worth it and nothing beats it. If you’re going to be in the cold and you don’t want to be cold, then go CG.
I don’t care what name is on the coat, if I want something warm I don’t mind paying the price. Most cheap stuff is just that – cheap!
I’ve learned over the years that buying cheap costs more. First you buy something for, let’s say $100. You’re happy because you saved $600! Wow! Then you fight with poor quality (junk zippers for example) for a year till the thing falls apart. Then you go spend the $700 you should have in the first place to buy something of quality, fits properly and lasts. But now you’ve spent $800, went though a year of frustration, then ended up filling up your closet because you’re too proud to admit it was a mistake!
That’s not what I call a good deal, paying $100 for a year of grief!
people should check the down cause they take it from the live bird in the spring really go check with locals they will tell you about it go vist the farms in the spring
So according to many posting here, a person needs to buy the Canada Goose branded parka in order to be ensured quality and warmth.
You see the same sort of misguided logic with people who pay a premium for German-branded autos like Audi, BMW and Mercedes (or even VW) whereas the reality is, reliability,durability and build quality reports clearly indicate that they’re not as wonderful as the hyperbole would have us believe.
Rather than educating themselves on what to look for when looking at details that indicate quality such people get fooled by the hype.
I have plenty of winter wear that is decades old and still very serviceable — some of which doesn’t even have a brand label because it was made by the persons who gave it to me as gifts.
The coyote trim really bothers me. I believe these animals are trapped with leg traps. Trappers are only required to check their traps every 3 days. Get the picture? If my information is wrong I’d like to know, but for now no trapped animal fur for me.
Disgusting. Do you have any idea of how that coyote suffered for your fashion statement? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIVmVMraR3I
I would spend the money on a Canada Goose coat if I had it to spend. I recently bought an awesome down coat from Helly Hansen for $240 (end of season sale) and it is the warmest coat I’ve ever owned. I only wish it had the coyote fur instead of the useless faux fur that it has. Coyotes are a nuisance and are overpopulated. There are lots of coyote hunters where I live and the coyotes are shot not caught in traps as some have suggested. Hunting coyotes helps keep the population down and using the fur on a coat is a brilliant way to utulize the animal.
I bought the Banff and it is 100% worth it! Of course, it really all depends on what 700+$ is worth to you. For some this is pocket money, for others this is several months of pilling up. Do you often see cold and windy -10 to -30 degree weather or is this a rarity?
From a relative point of view, comparing the cost/quality/fit and finish/durability of other coats I have seen it is pretty much linear, in other words I believe it’s twice as good as a coat that’s half the cost, from what I’ve seen anyways…maybe just a smidge of brand…but seriously not much because it is pretty much as good as you can get.
We live in Montreal and don’t have a car. I walk between 50km and 100km a week year round. I feel than my Canada Goose coat was worth the $700.
My husband bought a parka for a couple hundred dollars from MEC four years ago, and while it’s not a bad coat it’s obviously not the same quality. It’s become very difficult to find consumer products that are designed to last a decade of heavy use. A Canada Goose parka clearly is.
I looked at similar coats without fur trim, and it would seem that the fur adds about $125 to the cost of the coat. You can get similar parkas in the $450 to $600 price range without the fur. I find the fur very warm on my face and feel that it’s well worth it on very cold, windy days.
One thing I noticed when I was reading reviews for coats was that in many brands the women’s coats are not as warm as the men’s coats. If you need a very warm parka in woman’s size x-small (as I do, your options are pretty limited).
My only real gripe about the coat is the logo being so obvious. I wish I could just wear the coat without everybody on the metro knowing it cost $700, and without a certain segment of the population thinking I bought it because I’m a slave to fashion.
Wouldn’t buy a CG because of what it means to others (i.e. I think they’re well-made and all but don’t want to look like I’m wearing it to look well off). Grew up in northern Quebec so have some cold tolerance but I bought a terrible quality coat from MEC that was ripping within the first season. Husband has expensive Patagonia that’s not aging well. We’re in Ottawa and our dog LOVES the snow and cold (she’s fine up to -30, long fur). I was looking for a coat that is:
– made in Canada (won’t repeat the obvious above but when given the choice I’d rather vote with my $)
– reduced animal impact (i.e. option for synthetic fur – just as warm, and no cruelty down)
– good styling, very durable and low key branding.
I did all the stores in the city and picked http://www.quartznature.com/en/ and can’t believe I went without a good coat for so long.
A good coat that is breathable will function in a wide range of temperatures and is a good investment (think of how many cheap coats you buy throughout the year!)
What’s a shame is this Christmas I purchased my wife a Kelsey trail down filled jacket. To the best of my research, this company no longer exists, but were made in Winnipeg.
I just went back to the same store and picked myself up one for men.
Both were on clear out for $100. They’re 80/20 fill. All canadian. They even look like Canada goose designs. The exterior is void of gaudy patches. On the inside of the coat it just says 100 percent made in canada and came with a tag certifying it wAs canadian down used.
The regular prices were $329 and $299. There were other canadian makers clearly. The quality is so close I can’t tell the difference. Osc, Canada goose both have solid marketing. I think the smaller coat makers just couldn’t make it after the recession.
I do feel great about getting a canadian made high quality jacket for $100 though and it’s just as warm as my surplus military extreme winter parka. Just shop outlet stores or visit small town tack supply stores and you might be able to find one.
I don’t want a CG mainly because I don’t want to look like everyone else.
Style exchange was closing down here in Montreal so I got a beautiful Pajar jacket that retails 700$ but got for 500$. Honestly, my North Face jacket was cheaper and comparable in warmth however my Pajar is far less bulky and I feel a lot classier in it. Besides,it came in purple, my favourite colour 😀
Yes, I would invest in to it, because through my 20 years in Canada I been buying different coats yearly. I like the fact to be warm when it’s -30 degrees or more outside. If I calculated the cost of all my coats that I bought previously it’s 5 times more than the price of few Canada Goose Parkas. Why not invest on something that will last a lifetime since they claimed its lifetime warranty. It is really better than well-known brands like Gucci / Chanel and more. Canada Goose is lighter and slim fit while you don’t need thick sweaters to wear inside. Good Luck!
I own one and I LOVE it. I bought it about 8 years ago and it’s still going strong. I won’t need to replace it for another 8 years.
BUT, I will admit to carefully removing the Canada Goose labels from it so that people don’t think i’m a cidiot douche. Sad, but true.
I love and own a Canada Goose down winter jacket. It’s a light version with no fur collar. It’s $430 inclusive, not $700. It keeps me warm in winter time and it helps me to have a good feeling of being a Canadian.
So yes to Canada Goose!
For ppl that are saying that Toronto’s not cold your wrong because Lately it’s been FREEZING the wind HURTS my face so I would like to have a CG if it weren’t for the price and the thing about the coyotes because it love animals and I also have 0.00$ So dead coyotes and -700$ and warmth you could get from another 250$ jacket, is what it gives you.
So my opinion is NO.
I will never buy it because they use real coyote fur. Who does that!! Shame on you Canada Goose and whoever wears it. Coyotes are trapped and killed so that we can wear a $700 parka. Let’s rethink humanity! More sense less nonsense please! Let’s not harm animals because we simply want to wear them!!
==>> To Cindy Byers: It is clearly stated on the CG website that coyotes are trapped! Anyways, what difference does it make how they are killed. They are killed so that we can wear them, simple as that. We not only agree to that cruelty but we also pay for it. I vote for hunting some people for a change!
==>> To Aleksandra. I bet you live in a nice little box in the city and think that coyotes are just like the cartoons you like to watch. You guys live in a real fantasy world, when you have a pack of coyotes take down your lively hood one after another, or threaten your children you have a very different opinion. I bought the banff SPECIFICALLY because it was made of real coyote and not fake fur, the fake stuff is horrible.
==>> To alex. It’s their nature to do what they do. They were here before us and we should respect every animal. We make conscious choices about cruelty and justify them every way we can. What bothers me the most is this talk about a need to control population. We are the reason the ecosystem is not balanced, we as people like to exploit every aspect of life to the fullest. So don’t tell me that they are a threat to us, we are the biggest threat to nature. Thinking otherwise is lying to yourself. Go kill whatever is inconvenient to you. Hopefully nature will do the same!
Bought CG parkas for the wife and I. We are year round recreational walkers and experience bitter cold often. They are amazing coats in every way. I’d pay the price in a heartbeat, don’t care if the badge was on it or not, and coyotes are a nuisance in or area and have friends that have lost dogs and livestock to them, so having one wrapped around my face doesn’t bother me a bit.
Learn more aleksandra, there is a lot to learn about this subject and you can’t do it only from where you stand through second hand knowledge, when you feel strongly about something be suspicious about that because there are always two sides to a coin. There are too many of us and we are manipulated to consume ridiculously (ie all the tech like those “i-things” everyone likes to buy and planned obsolescence)…but some of us actually live with nature more directly so we have to fight with it sometimes, like clearing out the snow, digging a ditch to divert a flood or kill predators that threaten us sometimes (this is done by other predators too you know). But we also try to give back as much as we take to be part of nature rather than just a parasite. Coyote control is just like hunting, farming, nature, firearms all things you guys like to preach about with a closed mind on your soap box but don’t know much about. It is very aggravating to listen too or read sometimes.
I live in fashion concious Manhattan, New York City where warmth (waiting for public transport) and aesthetic are important in my choice for a coat. If a $700 Canada Goose coat that I have chosen carefully for color and cut will last me 3-5 years (at least) then, yes it’s worth it! I am also 1/2 Canadian and love the fact that this product is made exclusively in Canada.
P.S. A bit torn up about the coyote issue: horrible if they are trapped but are also a hazard to dogs and small children even in “country” areas north of NYC.
[…] http://www.squawkfox.com/2013/12/17/canada-goose/ of the same winter jackets! I’ve just returned home from a 2 hour outing, and within that time, I counted (no joke) 11 more of these Kensington Parkas! 3 of which were being worn by a group of young girls on the steetcar chatting to each other. Even if half the population IS wearing the same coat, wouldn’t you at least consider choosing a coat that ISN’T identical to the one your friends all have? Maybe I’m missing something here. Were these all handed out for free to people this winter? Does this coat give you superpowers? […]
For those who justify killing coyotes for ‘management’ -try again. When coyotes are culled, the reproductivity of nearby populations actually shifts into high gear, they will mate at an earlier age and have larger litters of healthier pups, who will be more likely to survive to breeding age. Therefore, justifying your bad choice is just ignorant. If you now feel guilty and shamed that you causes the suffering of your dog’s close relative (for no reason!), consider donating your fur to a wildlife organization which they will use to help rehabilitate the animals we hurt with our human actions.
I bought a Solaris parka from holts only to wear it for three months to have about 2 dozen pressure holes in the jacket. I was sent a replacement trillium jacket and the arm seams have holes in them again after three months. This brand is a joke. Buyer beware expect to have to go through the hassle of replacing your coat every year. Completely unacceptable.
Wow, just stumbled on this site, boy are there a lot of people having comments about Canada Goose jackets and the cost. Look, yes they are pricy but you haven’t heard one person say “it doesn’t keep a person warm”! I have purchased mine 6yrs ago and the next year one for my wife. And they work great! The biggest thing is the winter wind does not touch us, I should mention that we both have the Expedition style. Style and fashion was not a big concern, and yes we are proud it’s Canadian made, for all the right reasons. Just be clear why you buy.
I bought a Canada Goose women’s Trillium parka two years ago to wear outside on my 15+ hour days on a film set standing outside in Toronto winter (or further north!). I found that the feminine styling, while flattering to the body, was it’s main downfall as a functional garment.
It was fine from mid October until near the end of November, but when temperatures went down below freezing, my arms were cold. I also had cold spots in my shoulders and chest. I took the leap last year and decided to sell the coat on ebay.
I have not regretted getting rid of that fashion coat, it might be good for a trek to high school or work on the bus, but as far as standing outside for any length of time, it is useless.
It depends where you live and how much time you spend outside during winter. If the materials are of high quality then 700$ is okay. Now to the moral and hypocrite outcry of coyote fur usage: I just wish people were as serious, involved, outraged and outspoken when it comes to the destruction of their own species.
Hahahah all the cities she named have very mild winters…come to Manitoba minus 35 before wind chill and experience cold
I think buying a $700 coat is completely unnecessary. There are plenty of coats of brands that use faux fur and are just as warm. I bought one from Bench with a thick faux fur hood for a fraction of the price, and it keeps me very warm. Like many others said, I do believe that the Canada Goose brand is just a status symbol.
Also, “shoddy quality” is not synonymous with all things made in China. 90% of the things we use every day are made in China. I am Canadian and would be proud to endorse Canadian-made materials, but the ethics behind this Canada Goose brand is too shady.
I am always doubtful of reviews made by those who either don’t actually have the product or base their opinion on some illusion derived from some extreme sentiment of theirs. I decided to take the leap and buy one. Although the price tag is scary at first it do firmly believe it’s worth the money but you are not getting a bargain either. To compare, for some the dollar store kitchen knife is sufficient, for most the mid-range is more suited for their needs and for others, a 500$ handmade Japanese kitchen knife is all they will be happy with…all that is important is that the expectations and the needs of the buyer are fulfilled and they are at different levels for different buyers. I have owned several winter coats at different price ranges, some fit their cost and some don’t…the Canada goose fits it perfectly. The fit, feel and quality of the coat is not on the same level as my north face and there is no comparison with this coat and my cheap kanuk that I use to work on my car. If you are happy with that 200-300$ coat that’s fine but as far as I’m concerned it really is not at all the same product, no comparison.
As you mentioned, I used this parca in the South Pole before they became somewhat of a fashion icon in the northern latitudes. We got -90 wind chills, and the coat was always toasty. There aren’t many pieces of gear available commercially that are so warm and so well crafted. Besides, the high price underlines a commitment to quality, and to the employees in Canada that manufacture this product.
Absolute nonsense and hate the fact they use real fur!!! Just another stupid trendy thing. They’re are plenty of fabulous winter coats cheaper and most importantly animal friendly. And I experience winter it’s -25 right now outside where I am.
I’d like to know why perfect strangers feel free to make derogatory comments about my choice of coat.
Why doesn’t it say that Canada Goose is not waterproof? Rather its only water resistant. For a price tag of $700, this doesn’t seem like a good deal. Does anyone know of better alternatives?
This is why =
Down feathers are plucked from still living ducks
Coyote skin and fur is torn, from coyotes being FLAYED alive!
Price is fabricated and inflated
The company exploits both animals (using their bodies) and humans (brainwashing them to buy a “social status” image for 700$)
Also, i wear a fantastic TNA parka that costed me 200$ that is not down filled, has no coyote skin or fur and it is the BEST jacket i have bought for canadian winters
Buy a down coat on sale in March or April. I have a down gore tex $400 from MEC, but it’s outdated (red & purples colors), and the zipper’s going. Tried North Face – too chilly, down from MEC – yucky colors, and returned them. I get cold quickly but won’t spend more than $400 on a down parka. So, I just bought an Icelandic down and wool parka with rabbit neck fur and raccoon hood fur at a store in Halifax ON SALE FOR $400. Here’s the website: http://cintamani.ca/special-offers/viktoria-detail
G’day from Sydney, Australia. Can I hijack this thread to seek some advice?
I have *zero* experience with extreme cold, but need a parka for our Christmas 2014 trip to above-the-Arctic-Circle Scandinavia (which is likely to mean many polar nights standing in the snow in search of the elusive Aurora Borealis). My dilemma: finding jackets that will keep us warm so we enjoy the experience and will also fit (I’m curvy and – from what I’ve read – we’ll need to layer under the jacket).
Cost is almost a secondary consideration – despite the fact we won’t need a down jacket back in OZ – because we’re spending a bomb to get and stay there, and we don’t want to ruin the experience. I also don’t want to over-estimate what we’ll need from my complete lack of understanding and would prefer not to blow cash that could otherwise be spent on vino and beer (both of which are eye-wateringly expensive in Norway).
Hopefully, we’ll love spending time in such a different environment and whatever we end up with will see use in future, cold-climate travel adventures.
CG – Camrose model, no fur (we’re devoted dog-parents) – is under consideration, but I am seriously bewildered. Average low temps for the time we’ll be there is ~ -10 to -15C, but can get down to ~20+ (not including wind chill).
Finally – and sincere apologies for such an unreasonably long brain dump – I like the styling of the Camrose, don’t like the over-the-top branding; and I have also looked at other CAD designs mentioned on this thread, and they seem mostly to be around the same price for equivalent quality. Kanuk Pimbina and Arc’teryx Patera are up there on the current list.
Any suggestions – including whether we will even need a ~$700 jacket – gratefully appreciated from a cousin down under….
I’m just outside of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (45.394 North Latitude) nowhere near the Arctic Circle … but often, even during the summer months I can look up while out for an evening stroll and see the Aurora Borealis, albeit not as spectacular a version a one would see in the Far North.
Although Scandinavia is nearer the Arctic Circle, its climate is heavily moderated by that big ‘ol body of water that surrounds it so it really doesn’t get too cold up there.
Minus 20 is just cold enough to let you know that it’s Winter but it’s not so cold that you need to be afraid of dying of exposure as is the case when it gets into the minus 40 range.
I’d say don’t bother schlepping a $700 parka along with you for the trip. A couple or three at most layers under a wind-resistant shell should be more than adequate. More important is a warm hat, mitts and socks.
My daughter owns and wears a CG parka, in spite of which she has occasionally been cold, but not above -20 C. A number of companies make combination jackets of a fleece/down liner with a Gore-Tex shell. They aren’t cheap, either, but you might even be able to use the pieces in Oz. Canada designs and makes some incredible winter footwear. (My favourite is La Canadienne, but you can’t beat Sorel for slush.) I agree with ET about attending to your extremities. Also remember that wind and humidity can make a big difference on how cold you feel. Don’t know what you’ll be up against in that department.
You better believe I’m ready to pay 700$ for the perfect coat.
It needs to be warm. I spend my winters in Montreal after all.
But it also needs to be long and classy as hell.
My problem isn’t the money, is that it’s almost impossible to find the coat I want. I’m sure I will someday, and then I won’t give a f-ck about the price tag.
There have been a substantial number of “No way Joseé” comments about CG coats citing the fur trim as being a turn-off.
But Jean from Montreal obviously doesn’t (pardon my French) “give a f-ck” because (s)he’d buy it in a heartbeat if one could be found.
Logically then, Jean wouldn’t object to one of those full-length mink coats that would have cost $20k or more in the day but which can be had for a song these days on the used market due to their original owners being too embarrassed to wear them in public in the PETA-conscious 21st C.. “In for a penny …`as the saying goes.
`Classy`is not a descriptor that I would have used for a CG coat, a descriptor that probably only exists in the mind of a CG owner who thinks that the CG logo patch bestows it with such. “Utilitarian” perhaps. “Classy” ? I don’t think so.
OTOH, there are many generations of people world-wide, including the uber-riche in Gucci capitals around the world who would not have a problem describing a full-length mink or ermine (or other fur) coat as being “classy”.
Funny how I’ve made it through this winter, one of the coldest in 20 years, as I have for the past 60, without a CG coat, without freezing my @$$ off. Eh ?
In fact, the coat I’ve worn most on a daily basis while out for hours in the countryside with the dogs, is an ancient (25 years or more ?) wind-proof, Gore-tex lined thin shell over various underlayers to suit the day’s conditions. And “yes”, there are a number of different heavy-duty parkas hanging in the closet too, but they don’t see much use because the days where minus 40 or colder weather that might justify pulling them out, are few and far between.)
Never ever. Ridiculously expensive and hell their selling out to the Americans so my dollar would not be staying in or profiting the Canadian economy. And look like a clone of every second person on the street? I like my individuality. Also I’m sorry there is no reason to trap,torture,starve and skin a wild animal for a bit of trim when fake fur looks real enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YY-Dloe370
I’m happy with my Roots down coat that I’ve had for many years and I felt was not cheap at more than half the price of a CG parks. I’d rather not go into debt than be a label whore.
I bought the long Mystique Parka (Advertised as Extreme -30C) from Canada Goose, wore it the first week in -15C Canadian winter weather in Ottawa. It was warm overall except my lower arms where I could feel the cold draft sipping through. I paid around $700. I called Canada Goose, their recording saying they would return calls within a week. But they never returned my call. I left two more messages, they still didn’t bother to get back to me. I would never buy or recommend their product. In addition, the Mystique design is so plain, almost as if it is made by someone with basic sewing skill. It lacks of many features that other brands have on their design such as; plenty of pockets, hood adjustments etc. I thought such a long coat could shield the draft around my legs. No, not with this coat. I regret buying this coat. A friend told me that Tundra coats are much warmer at almost half the price. I feel it is a big rip-off.
In Yellowknife, Canada Goose is the only coat to buy. You should know that their top rated parka, the Snow Mantra retails for $1200. $700 gets you an Expedition. Up here they can be bought used at yard sales but you have to arrive early. Even used they go for $200 or more. Seriously, I just bought a 20 year old Snow Goose coat for $100, still in good shaple although a little faded from the sun. Shop Walmart for less, and you might get by for a year or two. You get what you pay for.
Dear Mrs Taylor,
I am (was)an avid(Hurt at work,since a lot less active)outdoorsman. A while back I was shoppin for a computer. And the type of Computer (custom vs off-the shelf)seemed to fit the bill. Some of the information on the Web is just that information. Much is not sorted or collated in a proper format. As for Outerwear. Ask yourself, exactly what you will use it for? (Standing outside,ie not moving, Skiing? etc.) When you have honestly answered (to yourself)the use issue. Then you can weight the options. I feel a $700 coat is a fasion statement as well as winter wear. If you are very cold (in moderate weather) then look to what the professionals wear. In this case, people who snow ski(board), hunt, or winter photography. Why photographers? Think about it,they have to stand outside motionless for long periods. It take a long time and much effort to stage(set up) photographs (or videos)… You deserve a lot of credit.??? Even thinking the purchase over. Shows you have a lot of maturity… the good kind. On large purchases I would research the issue first web etc. Then when I was comfortable I would shop, with no intention of buying. Then after the shop period, I’d make up my mind. And even then I would sleep on it. Today I wait at least the weekend. Good Luck.
Cheap and quality do not go well togheter… also http://www.cinellistudiostore.it offers many womens down coats but the price comes out form precise quality standards.
I would not pay $700. I made my own. I carefully opened the seams of my poly filled parka (from the thrift store) & stuffed it with goose down I reclaimed from estate sale pillows.
Ipso facto, warmo!
I could probably justify a $700 jacket if I lived and worked in the high north where cold extremes can happen six months of the year, but when Torontonians wear a $700 jacket for the 3-4 days each winter that the temp drops below -20C, then the jacket is strictly a status symbol.
Used my Canada goose off Novya Zemla in the Barrets Sea Russia and Dead Horse Alaska. When temperature fall below -50 F there is no substitute. Better to spend the extra cash than freeze to death above the polar circle.
FYI, Canada Goose coats and jackets are made with DUCK DOWN, not goose down. They use a high quality down but still, it’s not goose, it is duck.
To the person that said Lands End is comparable, she is full of it. Lands End is crap. It used to be really good but now the sizing and quality is ridiculously bad.
To the lady who asked which Costco sells it. None. Canada Goose sells in select locations only. You can find out where to buy from their web site. Costco ain’t on the list.
Taiga Works is a Vancouver operation that makes all of its clothing locally and it’s top notch and GOOSE DOWN. And their prices are much lower than CG. Unfortunately they only make jackets not coats. Maybe someday.
I live in Ontario and can attest to those cold, northern winters. Last winter was so cold in fact I decided to get myself a really warm coat. What I got was a 3/4 length leather coat lined in synthetic shearling from Danier. It cost about half the price of a Canada Goose jacket, but is longer and covers me better. It might be a tad heavier to wear, but the fuzzy lining really keeps me cozy. I also strongly recommend a well lined leather coat for northern climates. Leather is the ultimate wind breaker, because it is non-porous. I’m sure there are also plenty of well-lined fake leathers out there for people who are against wearing the real thing. I used to have a down filled parka from Roots Canada, but still find leather warmer.
I live in Ottawa and commute 45 minutes to work on 2 different buses. I am always freezing and need layers upon layers to stay warm. I went out to buy a winter coat with a $400 budget. But nothing fit my 5’1 stature quite right. I saw the Canada Goose display and tried one on with zero intention to purchase one. I would NEVER pay $700 for a coat. Well…never say never.
It fit amazingly well and you could just tell the quality was there from top to bottom.
Yes, Canada Goose is a bit of a status symbol. But this coat is an investment, one I will never regret. Last winter, was the first winter I could actually tolerate the cold -40 temperatures and blizzards. The coyote fur hood helps keep snow out of your face and blocks the cold wind amazingly well. I didn’t use a scarf all winter.
The lifetime guarantee was a definite selling feature. Any company that will guarantee their product for life, goes far in my books. The fact that there is no ‘race to the bottom’ with this company was a bonus. Made in Canada with no desire to outsource as their company reputation depends on Canadian made products.
I highly recommend!
I worked on an research ship that traveled the artic for a couple of seasons and it was beyond cold. Canada Goose coats get the job done and keep you warm but there are numerous other parkas that do the job as well and don’t cost even half the amount. You’re paying for the name and the style. It’s not as if Canada Goose is the only company that makes parkas for below freezing temps plus the Canada Goose jackets are really only meant for very, very cold temps. If it isn’t that cold then you’ll be uncomfortably warm in the coat.
I recommend looking into the North Face parkas.You can get them on sale at Si Vous Play. They waterproof and insulated with 550 fill goose down. They are well made and will last you years. Toronto weather is wet cold for the most part. Canada Goose is great for dry cold weather like the Arctic. There are definitely more cost effective alternative to Canada Goose 🙂
Thanks for the Alpinetek comments. I had doubts buying it but seems like it’s good enough for someone like me who can’t afford Canada Goose, Nobis, Pajar, Moose Knuckles or similar. I have been living in Toronto for a year and half but am a native of a tropical country. My body has a very low tolerance for cold temperatures.
I have been wearing a no-name coat for 3 years and it has served me very well. Going into a fourth winter with it. Cost – $30 Canadian. Why should anything that a person wears cost $600?
A lot of people seem to know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
Canada Goose make their coats in Canada, with the best quality materials, with fairly paid workers using an environmentally sustainable process.
China is not synonymous with low-quality goods (that’s where iPads and iPhones and most of the world’s electronics and many high end goods are well manufactured. But cheap products, be they shoes, coats or underwear no matter where they are manufactured, have a cost that most consumers never think of. Human misery at the lack of a living wage. Environmental damage. Worker safety. If you’d like to have a different perspective on value, watch this: http://storyofstuff.org/
I love my Canada Goose! I’ve had it for 5 years and it’s still in perfect condition. I also love my Soia&Kyo and Pajar down coats but Canada Goose beats then out any super chilly day hands down.
I bought a CG parka and i bought it for one reason and one reason only IT KEEPS YOU WARM … Im from toronto but moved to fort mcmurray to work , where the weather hits -40 before the wind chill when you Google ” what is the warmest jacket on earth” only one name comes up Canada Goose
I would love to own a CG parka, but just can’t bring myself to pay that much for it.Plus, I do not like the label on the sleeve- just not classy! I tried one on about two years’ back for fun, and I found it way too heavy. I am also against wearing the fur.
Best jacket I ever bought, came from a Costco special. It’s 80% down and 20% feathers. The fur is faux, and it’s made by Utex. It kept me warm during a polar vortex, and it washes like a dream. Cost : $79 plus tax!! This year, I found a storm park at Loblaws ( Joe Fresh), also with 80% down, and just as warm, for $99. It’s also lovely and warm enough for Toronto, very stylish ( others have commented on how good I look in it), has no fur, but the hood fits well and is warm, and it has thick cuffs and lined pockets. Yes, it is made in China, but it is well made, and the price was great. So, I have two wonderful jackets for under $200! I will put the money saved on a CG parka towards a holiday in a warmer clime!
Cannot believe you people are still debating on this after one year:) First off, like I said before, you don’t have to pay $700 to buy a CG parka, neither do you have to put the fur around your neck if you go for a lighter version. Secondly, price wise, allow me to put up an analogy —- it’s like you are comparing the price of a Corolla with that of a BMW.
A Corolla can get you somewhere, just like a North Face can keep you as warm, but when it comes to fashion and style, you just have to pay the extra to get them!
I own a CG jacket and a BMW car, and I enjoy them both. The harder you work, the more you deserve. Life is that simple.
I am moving to Iqaluit, Nunavut, Canada next month and am debating what kind of jacket to get. Temperatures there will probably be around -30 mostly, before windchill. Is a Canada Goose really worth the money for the Arctic? I won’t be working outside, but will be walking about 15 minutes each way to work.
Not even will talk about 700 bucks for a jacket, but will mention a fact when I bought 2 Super Triple Goose Parka 10 years ago and yes they are worn since I machine washed them at least 5-8 times which made them loose some down filling, but it is still the best jacket that I ever had, cotton inside and out (hate polyester aka plastic as make me sweat), great zippers, and removable hood. Now you wonder the price?? Only 65 dollars each at Orfus road, probably by International Clothiers, so wake up people and stop feeding greedy business with your hard earned cash. CG sue to don;t let them to produce the same here, sure maybe quality is not the same, but for a tenth of the price I will take it anytime, I really wish that I could buy these jackets again…
Ridiculous price difference, my salary is the same as 10 years ago and so is all my friends, so no inflation argument here… but I guess being ripoff is the price to all ourselves Canadians as in everything else.
I just bought a Canada Goose and it is totally worth the money – both in fashion and warmth.
And I am too old to care that I will be a ‘poser’ or ‘rich idiot’. Yup – I can afford it.
To Patricia who will be moving to Nunavut soon:
Any parka-type coat would suffice for the task of keeping your body sufficiently warm, layering if necessary and you’d not have to spend anywhere near $700 for it.
It’s not the main trunk of the body that is susceptible. It’s the extremities – fingers, toes, nose etc. that would benefit most from extra insulation.
Wind/water-resistant mitts into which you can insert an additional pair of knitted or fleece gloves will do an excellent job of keeping your fingers warm, no matter how cold it gets. And there’s nothing like a pair of felt-pack lined boots (aka “mukluks”) for keeping your feet protected. And a thick scarf that can be pulled up to just under your eyes + tuque will take care of your head.
At minus 40 or 50 below, “warm & protected from frost-bite” trumps all other considerations IMO.
I have a number of heavy duty parkas (some were gifts so I have to keep them) and in the 40-or-so years that they’ve been hanging in my closets, I doubt that they’ve seen use for more than one or two days per year.
Me ? I’d take the money saved from not buying the “brand” and spend it on a winter-beater mountain bike to cut that 15 minutes travel time to work down to 5 or less. What could you do with that extra 2 hours per week that you save ?
They use coyote fur for the trim around the hood. How they get that fur is cruel torture of these coyotes which are in pain days before they will be killed for a coat. Don’t buy the coats. You can make a difference.
Cannot for the life of me figure out why in this day and age, when we are suppose to be so darn smart, anyone would wear anything with fur. I will stick to my expensive but warm obermeyer from austria. Sad to see some people when I am out walking my dog, they are out with their dogs and wearing these coats which have a dead dog wrapped around the hood. Stupid people wear these.
Please use words like “stupid” with care.
If your dog is out for a walk with you, it is leashed, fenced or very well trained. You feed it regularly and provide a place for it to sleep. This is not true of coyotes.
Coyotes are shot on sight in some areas. So are dogs if they are bothering wildlife, farm animals or are running in packs.
I am currently seeking a new winter coat. I live in NYC where its a must to be fashionable. I tried on a CG and it didn’t fit me right. I am small upper and very hippie.I found some warm alternative brands that won’t break the bank too much….. Pajar, Point Zero and Nicole Benisti. Hope that helps everyone.
And as far as wearing fur being cruelty to animals, Humans have evolved by using what’s around them. Eating animals and using their hide is normal! Smh Do you think Indians thought about animal cruelty? Not at all. They just wanted to keep warm and provide for families so cut the bs… Please.
So Sinsae, when was the last time you cornered an animal, slit its throat and restrained it while its blood and life drained out of its body and then slit open its belly, peeled off its hide and cut out its guts before youcut it up into pieces to eat ?
And “yes” our First Nations people did think a great deal about the animal whose life was being sacrificed to provide them with sustenance and as such did not do it in the casual fashion that a New Yorker does when eating meat they’ve purchased.
I meet up with coyotes almost every day here. For the most part they try to avoid me so I have no issues with them.
However, some of my neighbours raise sheep and chickens (the beef cattle are able to defend themselves) and they have lost more than a few of these to coyotes or wolves or foxes or fishers etc. and I don’t blame them one bit for being less tolerant than I of these predators.
I have several CG coats. They are good coats. Given they are made in Canada, $800 is a very good value. (not as some dummies say a huge markup) I would rather give my money to Canadian workers than exploited Asian (they have plenty of customers.) I can afford any coats I want, why not have a good coat that supports our friends across the border?
Ok, I broke down and bought a Quartz Nature jacket for around $649.00 ( with faux fur, more for different real furs). I am a cold person and needed a coat that did not leak feathers ( as some of the cheaper ones do), and also one that is classic and will give me many years of wear. I really did my homework well here, and discovered that Quartz Nature makes all their outerwear right here in Canada. The quality is on a par with CG, but it is water resistant, and best of all, washable ( the Goose has to be dry – cleaned), and has the same amount of warmth as the CG Kensington. There is no huge badge on the sleeve, but just a discretely stitched logo of the same colour as the cloth on the front. The coat is light and very warm, and brilliantly made. It’s design is simple and low key, without any fancy embellishments, but even so, it looks so good. I took the Kimberley in a small, which still gives me room should I decide to wear a bulky sweater under it. I ordered it on line, and it arrived within four days. So, if you are looking for an alternative to CG, made right here in Canada, do not want real fur ( or any fur at all), be sure to look into QUARTZ NATURE jackets. No, they are not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but they should give you ten plus years of warmth and wear, and the styles are simple and classic. I could not be happier with my choice, and will be donating all those Chinese made cheaper jackets in my closet, to various charities. I now only need my beautiful QN coat.
My sister and I purchased a Canada Goose jacket for our Mom last Christmas. It has been the best investment we have ever made. She has been through mountains of winter jackets from a vast array of brands and none have stood the test of time nor have they been warm enough for her (we live in the north half of Ontario where it does actually get cold). The people above that say that no innocent animals were killed in the process of making their non-Canada-Goose jacket are incredible and clearly naive.
First of all…….I’m sure we can all agree the trappers for the fur are not foreigners brought in. that is an acquired skill done by people in the homeland. Other than that….You can be sure this jacket has not left Canada (regardless of exploitation), and does not settle for cheap China-made components.
I go to Western University currently in third year. All I saw around me were people wearing Goose Jackets, and as far I was concerned it was nothing but an expensive trend (for lack of research). I thought they were the stupidest things and the biggest wastes of money.
Than I Tried One On.
In what would have otherwise been cold enough weather (~/-17) to make me chilly in my multiple layers in an hour, this jacket had me feeling like i was INSIDE THE WHOLE TIME. I considered my future in aviation and where I will be in a few years; most options are telling me it’s somewhere a lot colder than here. Plus I look at it this way; the durability of my 300-400$ ski jackets last around 2 or 3 years. the quality of this jacket will last ten. no doubt in my mind, i REFUSE to pay for another jacket unless it’s CG…..knowing im forking up money just to be cold/chilly again is something I just cannot settle with
I found your comments to have a disturbing xenophobic (if not racist) tone about them (ie trappers not being “foreigners”, Chinese components etc).
Canada is a nation of foreigners. One of my neighbour’s sons is a licensed trapper. The family came to Canada in the late 1800’s … from Ireland. I don’t think that a coyote that has one of its body parts mangled in a trap cares whether the person who set it had red, white, black, brown or yellow skin.
And I would venture that your assumption about none of the components being sourced from outside of Canada is wrong. CG’s own website states that the chicken down comes from around the world.
(I also noticed that there is more than a little hyperbole at the CG site. Chicken down is *not* “the world’s best” insulation. Nor is coyote fur the only material that would be effective at creating the turbulence around the facial area.)
I haven’t checked but I have a feeling that Canada does not have any zipper manufacturers (most likely all in China these days) and a strong suspicion that the fabric and the thread to sew it together are also made in China.
And I also have a strong suspicion that most of the workers in the CG plant(s?) where the coats are made are recent immigrants to Canada.
And if you’re having trouble keeping warm in only minus 17 degC weather when wearing multiple layers, then I’d say you’re doing something terribly wrong. One of my neighbours who is over 70 yrs old and volunteers teaching blind kids to ski across the river in the the QC hills remarked to me that he doesn’t think it feels cold on the ski hill until the temps dip below minus 20. I agreed with him (ie minus 20 + wind).
That may be what you have interpreted, but it is merely an educated opinion. I’m saying it’s Canadians, did I mention anything about race? No. You’re just looking for something to attack on this thread. Reread my post and reconsider your words first of all.
It could be Hutterites, someone who migrated to toronto and went north. They could be Chinese, brown, black or even purple. But my point is the fact it’s not just an unskilled labourer coming here to simply trap animals. The way it is done in the north is a way of life for them and it has its roots all the way back to the fur trade.
Don’t “venture my assumptions” at all please and thanks. Your comment is nothing but assuming things you cannot support, not to mention it’s goose down by the way (just because it’s waterfowl does not make them all ducks; that’s like saying ham and steak are the same thing)
I was simply sharing how I felt about these jackets. All you have is SUSPICIONS about a product, and intentions of attacking others over a few keywords that were far from racist. So please, before you go jumping down people’s throats….consider comprehension before action. Thanks.
But yes. You could be possibly right about your *suspicion* of recent immigrants (aka foreigners….which also has no racist connotation on a political and social level; that’s nothing more than your personal interpretation) coming in to ASSEMBLE the components together. Btw…I’m Irish. And many trappers up there are European and Spanish. But they were not simply flown in to trap, being over exploited and sent home (no, I am not referring to those ASSEMBLING, but the product has all components from Canada). And, to add, Asian components on clothing have a reputation of being lower quality than that of Canada.
Canada Goose gloves are actually made in China… but they’re still priced at over one hundred dollars per pair, in line with the rest of their products. Why are these gloves and mitts not 10 times cheaper if CG’s highly priced products are solely due to Canadian manufacturing and high wages at the place of manufacture?
Because they’re not, and you’ve been fooled. The fact that other HIGH QUALITY winter equipment manufacturers charge 50% less for comparable products (made in the U.S., Canada or Scandinavia) should attest to that.
yes yes yes yes yeeeeessssssss………… all the way yes. purchase a canada goose jacket and you won’t be disappointed. The jacket lasts long, is warm and fashionable. where can you go wrong. The price? Well, my jacket has lasted me for 6 years so far and i in very good condition and continually keeps me warm and comfortable. I paid 700 for mine. Including this winter it will have lasted me 7 years. that only a 100 per winter. and believe me it’s worth it. its going to last me even longer than 7 years since it’s still in good condition.
Very informative article. You helped me to decide whether to get Canada Goose jacket or not.
Born and raised North of Sudbury and having spent my adult life bouncing around southern Ontario. At 31 I have never bought a winter coat in my life. When I was 15 my cousin gave me a down filled Southpole Coat don’t know what he paid for it but I still have it. When I was 21 my Dad bought me a Columbia ski jacket for my birthday on sale for 150, still have it. And when I graduated college at 25 he bought me a London Fog Wool PeaCoat for 130 to celebrate. Still have it. I am more likely to put my money into sneakers than any other type of apparel but if my Southpole jacket ever dies I might consider it. Assuming it’s going to hold on like Southpole. It’s all in how you care for it. My opinion of course.
After years of purchasing cheaper coats, I have to say, CG might just be worth the price for all the reasons listed. Winters in NYC may not be as harsh as parts of Canada’s, but we get a fair bit of it and I don’t drive so I end up walking everywhere, freezing my tail off no matter how much I layer. I do like my North Face jacket because it keeps me warm and I got it for hundreds of dollars less than what a similar CG jacket would cost but it’s just not as stylish and that matters to me just as much as the level of insulation. The price point still hurts though…I’ve been debating between a Kensington parka or…a vacation haha.
I started seeing the CG coats all over NYC lately and thought it might present a cruelty free option if it was so popular here. (Nope). I have found the comments on this thread valuable in researching this product. Now, northern Canadians, be prepared to laugh…..you said you could not understand someone in Toronto needing one, well….it is 40 F here, and literally every other woman I pass on the street (busy urban block, dense high rise population, highest per capita income zip code in US (not me though)….is in a full CG parka complete with Coyote trim. Usually once the trends are done here they get copied and the original prices come down. I hope in this case it increases CG sales over time drives the price to more reasonable, and keeps people working.
I started seeing the CG coats all over NYC lately and thought it might present a cruelty free option if it was so popular here. (Nope). I have found the comments on this thread valuable in researching this product. Now, northern Canadians, be prepared to laugh…..you said you could not understand someone in Toronto needing one, well….it is 40 F here, and literally every other woman I pass on the street (busy urban block, dense high rise population, highest per capita income zip code in US (not me though)….is in a full CG parka complete with Coyote trim. Usually once the trends are done here they get copied and the original prices come down. I hope in this case it increases CG sales over time drives the price to more reasonable, and keeps people working. The folks here in NYC will certainly wear them for only a season, so hit EBay next winter for gently used CG!
Unfortunately there isnt a comparable option. If you think Northface, Patagonia, and Fjal Raven equivilants are nearly as warm or well made – you are mistaken. I cant even wear my Patagonia Tres below 35 degrees without layering.
Actually, scratch that. Northface and Patagonia do not sell a single product as warm or higher quality than a Canada Goose Chateau.
I’ve bought a Canada Goose Heli-Arctic parka (Discontinued) 6 years ago for 660$. Let me tell you one thing. I spent 660$ back then on a quality parka from Canada Goose, but I would NOT do it again, and here is why. They are watering down the features on their parkas, yet the prices keep on going up. To support what I’m saying, here is a list of features on my discontinued Canada Goose Heli Arctic parka that are also present on Canada Goose’s top of the line Snow Mantra parka (which is now priced around 1150$), that where once part of but have since been *REMOVED* from the Expedition Parka being sold today at 875$. Here they are: Double-reinforced elbows for durability, adjustable bracing wire in hood for superior protection in high-wind conditions, shoulder grab-straps, Two lower, two toned, full-bellow snow pockets secured with Velcro® flaps, on top of which are two fleece lined handwarmer slash pockets (the expedition no longer has the fleece lined hadnwarmer slash pockets), D-ring for glove attachment point. I noticed the disappearance of these features when I saw the Expedition Parka in person in a store and also online, plus the parka seems cheaper in construction when I compared it side by side with my Heli-Arctic. In conclusion, 6-7 years ago Canada Goose had not hit the mainstream yet, and I was one of the rare ones who owned one. North Face was a lot more popular then. Now that they’ve gone mainstream, well…
Just wondering why you have not posted the side by side comparison of the Heli Arctic parka I bought 6 years ago (660$) with the recent higher priced Expedition parka (875$) CG is selling these days with about half of the features removed from the older version it used to sell. Is it because you didn’t have time to accept my comment? My comment was polite, did not insult or use offensive language. It was a testimonial on topic, based on real life experience and hard facts. How and why would you block my comment then? If you did block my comment, you are clearly defending the brand. And if that’s the case, well… You clearly don’t value moral or ethics and you suck dollar signs. Thanks.
Hi, for some reason I just saw you accepted my previous comment. When I got home I saw my comment had not been accepted and it made me angry because it was on topic and relevant. Based on past experience, I thought you might had blocked it because you were defending the brand and what not, which would be ok in itself however I felt like the moderation would have been unwarranted. Clearly you are not that type of person. It’s nice to see that not everybody on the web is sold to the highest bidder, I will be visiting your blog more often in the future, thanks. p,s. I should not be using the comment section to post this I think, sorry.
There are viable options to CG, which are of the same quality and warmth.
Go online and look at the Quartz Nature range. Made in Canada, same down filling, and best of all, washable. You have the choice of different furs, fake fur or no fur. Lovely colours and designs and no huge status symbol badge. I have only had compliments when I wear my QN coat, and it is light and very, very warm, too. Price is slightly less than CG, but I have never regretted buying this brand whilst it is still low – key. Go to their website and check it out. I am 5’2”, 50 kgs and took a small to allow for extra room for layering, but an XS, would have been a good fit too. Love , love my QN!
I struggled with the price tag but in the end it is the BEST $700 I have ever spent. Warmest coat, love the hood, can wear a t-shirt under it and feel warm’ wind doesn’t cut through it. I live in Saskatchewan! It’s and investment but well worth it!!
I liked the idea of owning one of this parkas before I knew how much you had to shell out for one. I just couldn’t believe it. My 10-year old 150-dollar Columbia winter coat is still in one piece and like new. I know it’s not fashionable and it’s bulky and it’s made in China but can withstand -30 with no issues so for the time being U’ll stick with it …
I still own one of the original Far West jackets from 1988 that was, at that time, made in Vernon B.C. This is by far the absolute best winter jacket I have ever owned. It looks worn but is still very much intact. I still use it when I go skiing (yes…I am NOT styling). As for Canada Goose….I probably paid the same price in 1988 for my Far West as a new CG in today’s funds. You certainly get what you pay for.
Walking around here In New York City, it appears that every 30 or so people I see is wearing a Canada Goose parka. I assume they are authentic. Everyone is entitled to their view as to whether $700 is a fair price. Obviously, to those who choose to purchase one, it is a fair price. I understand the points that have been made regarding the cost associated with making a quality jacket that is very warm, wind proof and waterproof that will last for years, and thus, the relatively higher price. The price set by the manufacturer is of course a business decision.
Walking around here In New York City, it appears that every 30 or so people I see is wearing a Canada Goose parka. I assume they are authentic. Everyone is entitled to their view as to whether $700 is a fair price. Obviously, to those who choose to purchase one, it is a fair price. I understand the points that have been made regarding the cost associated with making a quality jacket that is very warm, wind proof and waterproof that will last for years, and thus, the relatively higher price. The price set by the manufacturer is of course a business decision. That decision is based on a number of factors, including the cost, and the profit margin that the management and shareholders want to make given certain constraints with regard to price elasticity. In my view, the profit margin is very high, so those who rationalize their decision to pay that price should also recognize that they are lining the pockets of the shareholders of the business, who a laughing all the way to the bank.
Most people in winter are walking to and from some place or waiting for short periods at a bus stop or the like. In these situations another brand and a cheaper parka would suffice. As a wildlife photographer, I am often sitting in one place in -20 degrees celsius for many hours with 80 kilometer winds. A Canada Goose parka would probably pay big time for me in these situations. I intend to purchase one for its utility rather than for fashion so I give a resounding yes to this coat !
70 yr old, thought about buying one for 2 years and finally.bought one this year and love it. It is expensive. It have kept me warm on my walks, live in Alberta, no regrets.
That’s an outrageous amount of $$$$ for a coat and something only the rich could afford. I just can’t see spending 700$ on a coat when there’s so many other things the $$$ can be better spent on, such as buying groceries, paying bills, my kids’ educations,etc. I’ve never spent that much on myself; the most I’ve ever spent was 200$ for a pair of Ugg boots.I just can’t justify spending that for a coat.
I agree that a good-quality product that will last for years costs $700 that is why I did my research and decided to purchase my parka from Arctic Bay. This is a smaller company but with even higher quality jackets. Way more down fill and amazing huge coyote fur and beaver trimming. I truly enjoyed Toronto winter this year! Bunch of my friends and colleagues actually bought their parkas from Arctic Bay as well. They are all 100% made in Canada with amazing water repellent fabric, which is a big bonus for wet snow and random rains in winter.
I am a big fan of this brand and recommend to all.
In a recent tryp to china i visited a down jacket fabric that (they say) are shipping to all over the world and you choose the “made in ” in the label, they mention Canada… believe me i have seen it…
I can’t imagine paying $700 for a down jacket. I bought a very nice Gap jacket that looks very similar to the one you pictured for $10 on ebay. It fits nicely, it comes to just above my knees. It is very comfortable. I am snug in it but not overly hot. It washes well. I don’t feel badly having an animal sacrificed for my clothing.
When I was younger, I almost bought a fur coat until my cousin complained about sore shoulders after shopping in her mink. Down coats are lovely in that respect. I think it is nice to have a sense of nationalism and buy Canadian products, but the economics of it, I don’t feel inclined to justify $700 for something that looks as good and is a fraction of the cost.
Had them all (North Face arctic parka, North Face Metropolis parka, North Face Nuptse jacket, Hard Wear parkas, Patagonia parkas as well). THIS Canada Goose Kensington Parka is by FAR and away the best parka I’ve ever owned. PERIOD. I don’t care who thinks it’s a status symbol, those critics aren’t going to keep me warm as this parka does in the brutal winters here. THIS, on the other hand, does —and does well. Best winter gear purchase I ever made. Heck yeah!
okanogan? Vancouver and toronto?
Trust me lady you dont know cold. These jackets are worth it.
If you spent time working outside in -30–40 with the wind howling and icicles hanging off your eyelashes. You would appreciate a good jacket. There worth more then any bicycle.
And waiting for the bus? Really? Ask someone who works outside for a living. Im talking hours and hours outside.
Absolutely YES. I lived in Manitoba for 3 years and definitely Canada Goose made a difference for me as I used to travel to northern Manitoba on emergency basis. Since I moved to Calgary I have not used as much
I have liked many comments here.
CG is for extreme cold. You wear it -30 -40 C and do not need serious layers.
For that weather you will need it. But remember, that is a Jacket for Canada, Sweeden, Finland, Iceland, Greenland, forget about UK, France, NY.
Second, if you work in an office these jackets are great because that will be what you will need under you work suit to get there. You do not need to be removing 2 additional layers after you get to the office to avoid getting toasty.
Do not mess with winter !
Wear what makes you warm.
Quality is also expensive. In 2000, when North Face was a serious company I bought a gore-tex ski parka. It still looks new and it works for what is intended, stopping the wind, element protection while being breathable !
Now, after 15 years is not a cool jacket anymore, it is far from being fashionable.
So, it could happened the same to your fashionable expectation.
You can’t go wrong with that parka cold wise from all the comments I read. If you can afford it go ahead.
There are a few things to consider here;
Firstly, the coat is Canadian made. Not only does that sustain a Canadian business, and subsequently, all of their suppliers but also remember they are paying Canadian wages to have this coat manufactured.
I live in Ontario, in the country. I was once of the opinion that North Face down, and Canada Goose were on the same playing field. After 3 winters of -50 days with wind chill I can tell you that my 900 down fill North Face coat got swapped off pretty damn quickly with my 700 down fill ankle length North Face coat in a feeble attempt to not freeze to death on the way from my car to meetings. That was also an exercise in futility as within moments I was back to freezing my ass off. I now own two Canada Goose Coats – a Mystique, and a Kensington and they are most definitely warmer. It is without a doubt that you can purchase North Face coats that are on par with Canada Goose such as those that are reserved for actual technical expeditions however those are not going to be $200.00 coats either. You’re going to be shelling out approximately the same amount of money, for a coat that has been made overseas, the function vs fashion element may be more on the side of functionality than something you also really quite like, and aside you are more than likely not supporting any aspect of a Canadian business (assuming you’re purchasing in Canada.)
It’s incredible how so many people have ripped into into CG. You would they were selling crap. I think they were expensive before Kate Upton. For someone who moved froom a 110 degree summer climate to a close to the north east Canadian border region; I almost died last winter. There are certainly other choices to be sure. I care about ducks, etc like anyone else but human rights and suffering preoccupy my mind. If it keeps me warm, I’m willing to buy it and don’t feel like researching anymore, let it be. Stop bashing people for how they spend their money. You don’t know them, don’t judge them. Advice is always welcome; it’s all in how you give it.
In the far far away north of the country, you can buy 850$ CG for half the price and its not in sale.. Its their full price. Maybe because they are all wearing overkill stuff half of the year. Best deal is to have someone buy it for you then pay shipping with canadapost
Are there cheaper alternatives “just as warm”? Yes. Are there alternatives with an actually slim cut with high armholes and exceptional build quality? Absolutely not. Is it worth a premium for a coat that actually fits well while being functional and last a life time? Of course
Now that I have had many parkas due to the experiences on the Dewline,military,trapping,snowmobiling and living for 80 years in Sk,Mb,and Arctic I found two parkas that I loved, the Hudson Bay with wolverine fur that does not frost up but eventually wore out, and the Snow Goose with gortex linig which I`ve had for over 30 years! It fits like a glove and I wish I could afford a new one as the old one has disclored from the uv rays…
Not worth it my opinion, I live in quebec and we have one of the strongest winters in all canada and I’d get really tired of the same winter jacket wearing it for 6 months each year. I’d rather spend money on Point Zero, also Canadian, Pajar, also canadian as well Columbia Jacket that will cost me a fraction of the price, actually about 1/4 of what I’d pay for a canada goose jacket. I need different jackets to go thru the winter. So far, those brands have made the job during quebec’s winter. I personally believe it is totally overated! just my 2 cents here!
CG coats are as beautiful as Channel bags. Fashion is like art. Function is important but outstanding of all in terms of brand, luxuriousness, recognition, etc., is equally as important. We should have more art kind of Canadian fashion brand like CG. Canadian fashion industry has to be developed like that of Paris and Italy. CG should increase their price. All CG coats should be over 1 or 2 thousand dollars like those of Berberry or Maxmarra.
I don’t see “SaskSask”‘s comment posted here yet although it’s sitting in my mailbox but in reply:
If you want to develop/support a “Canadian parkas as Art”industry and think it’s OK to pay $1k-$2k for a parka, then I would venture that a person might look at one of the many small companies comprised of our Northern Aboriginal peoples who make winter gear — you know, the people who invented “parkas” ?
Some of them will be traditional designs, made of traditional materials . Some will be designs by moderns who have graduated from “Southern” design schools, made of modern, technical fabrics in styles which reflect their cultural roots but are ultimately 21st C designs … and everything in between. Further, rather than being identical parkas like thousands of others from a production line, chances are pretty good that the creators would be happy to work with the buyer to develop a one-off unique parka-as-art.
This may be old news, but Canada Goose had a Black Friday sale. I picked up a Chilliwack bomber (usually priced at $650) for $250.
So I guess you can have your cake and eat it too, once in a blue moon.
I grew up in Maine and now live and NYC and we have had some really cold winters as of late and last year I just got sick of being brutalized by the cold waiting for the train for walking around town.
Canada Goose like Hummer or even Abercrombie and Fitch started as for enthusiasts that needed gear that would handle some of the most terrible conditions, but have transitioned into a lifestyle brand. So while Canada Goose jackets are overkill being rated at -15 F these aren’t the original Canada Goose jackets that were exploring Antarctica but rather warn on celebrities like Brooklyn Decker. You thought a H2 Hummer was crazy that is just consumer grade, the Military original was the real deal in comparison. Abercrombie was first an elite sporting goods and excursion gear manufacture, but now sells skin tight ripped clothes to pre-teens.
Price wise $700+ is A LOT for any kind of jacket. Even some of my best suits never costed this much. But in comparison to Moncler, Canada Goose is somewhat of a bargain since Moncler starts at $1000 easily and are sometimes thousands of dollars. Also it maybe worth noting every year Canada Goose has raised their prices. I own a Langford men’s parka and when it first debuted it was $500 and now in 2015 it is $825. A course you can get a really great LL Bean, Patagonia, or North Face jacket and it will cost maybe a third of a Canda Goose but at $700+ you are buying a Canadian made piece with quality down and real fur, plus you get a lifetime warranty, only LL Bean has this. The real selling point for many is the cache and it factor of owning a Canada Goose. For you car people would you rather have a Chevy Thahoe or a Cadillac Escalade? Like a Cadillac a Canada Goose is a top of the line piece that has all the bells and whistles but it’s price is mainly derived from brand image and fashion appeal.
Honestly I love my jacket even though I have yet to wear it since it has been one of the warmest winters so far ever in NY, but I would say I mostly bought it out of appeal like someone would buy a Hermes bag or Rolex. Yes there are cheaper and even better coats, but the name is what defines it
Yes, I live in Fairbanks, AK and spend many hours outdoors when it’s below -20. As for buying it as a status symbol, I believe if one can afford it and will enjoy it than they should do so, symbolism and fashion are subjective; to each their own.
No way Kerry. As you said, many things cost $700, but my coat will never be one of them. I can stay warm for a lot less and I have. $200 is my limit for regular wear. Now if I were going on a serious expedition to the arctic, or was spending any significant time in the bush during winter, then perhaps I would go to $700. Being a Canadian company doesn’t mean you get to gouge.
If a Canadian company tells me I should ignore my wallet for the sake of Canadian pride, I would tell them their top management and executives should live modestly with the knowledge and pride that they are creating a quality Canadian product. It goes both ways.
Too often marketers prey on our sense of personal pride or patriotism in order to get us to spend ourselves into debt, and that has to stop. I just paid $470 for $+800 in snowboarding equipment, and I’m sure it cost them $100 to make.
Yes, buy it!
It’s interesting to see how people say “I don’t to kill coyote to have a warm jacket”. Oh, please, maybe first become vegetarian and stop killing all the poor animals for food!!!!
There are many trappers who have been hunting coyotes for many generations.
And also, the trim will last longer than poor piggy or turkey one has for Christmas!
I was in Montreal over Christmas and it was pretty cold. I stumbled upon Kanuk and they were having a really nice sale so I bought a coat on impulse. Once I put it on I no longer needed all the layering. And amazingly enough my hands and face felt warmer too! Maybe that was psychological. All I can say is this is the warmest coat I have ever had and it seems very well made. Living in New Jersey I won’t be able to use this as much as if I lived in Canada but I am very happy with my purchase. I saw a lot of people with Canada Goose jackets. I had not idea they were a status symbol but apparently they are. They also look like great jackets and if I had stumbled on those first maybe I would have bought that instead of a Kanuk. I also liked the fact that the Kanuk was made on premises in Montreal. I like the idea of supporting local businesses.
Yes if you can afford it. There is no price you can put on warmth in the winter.
Bought a new Colubia 2-stage parka during the post-Christmas sales days. Two days into Chicago’ latest polar vortex, I kept seeing this small patch on the sleeve wondering what the new brand was. Have probably seen 30-40 CG coats the last two days. Visited their website and almost fell over! Two to three times a North Face! No cool-related regrets with the Columbia. THe old Bugaboo two-stage gave me 15+ years – including falling down Blue and a few black diamonds.
God bless the folks who find that much value in the CG brand.
I would have to say yes to a Canada Goose and you can of course buy a North Face for much less but you’ll likely sacrifice quality construction. I don’t have a Canada Goose but do have a CMFR of equal value and also have(and have had) a two warm North Face jackets.
I think the fact I have now had two North Face winter coats/parka/jackets in the last 10 years says it all and anyone I know who has a Canada Goose has had one coat/parka/jacket and only one. Case in point – a friend of mine has had one Can Goose winter jacket for over 10 years ( he hails from the Regina area originally ), wears it endlessly and the only damage is some fraying at the cuffs – it may not be a modern cut or style but thats another discussion. I had a two season old $450 North face Summit Series, which is very warm and half the price, but the constant catching of fabric from the front zipper has torn up the entire inner seam. Other zippers have broken, inner pockets torn and little holes have developed within the outer fabric BUT it is warm. In theory these are all areas that can be mended by a good seamstress but I think the point I’m getting at is you pay for quality – bottom line. You pay more for a good computer, you pay more for a good cut of beef, you pay for more a quality automobile etc etc. so why not pay for a good jacket and in this case a nice, warm Canada Goose ( or other equally expensive and constructive brand )?
At $700+, CG is a non-starter for me. But here is the problem-you don’t really know how warm a coat is until you buy it and wear it, because almost no coat manufacturer will tell you to what temperature it is good for… I had to return an otherwise very nice, light Eddie Bauer down coat a couple of yrs ago when it became obvious that is was not warm enough, even though it was supposed to be good to -34C, I believe (the only manufacturer I have seen that even tried to put a number on it…) As a result I have a whole bunch of coats that are not warm enough, or if they are they are warm, they are too heavy…I am sick of layers, life is too short to fuss with putting things on and taking them off…not to mention having to carry them around if you are out and about and temps warm up…Temps in Toronto can be all over the map in a single day and I would love one light, warm coat that would do for all temps, so I don’t have to lug my extra layers around …I am on the road all day and at different times of the day, taking transit…Any ideas? All suggestions are appreciated.
I must say I am a very frugal shopper. I happened to buy one second hand cause the price was very cheap. I live in the High Arctic and when it is -40 with out the wind chill I am very warm, I was convinced. I went out and bought two new coats one for my Wife who hates being cold and one to replace the second hand one I had bought just for snowmobiling. I cant stand in the coldest of days and the only part of my that is cold now in my legs so I think I will spend even more now and get their snow pants too. These coats are built to stand the extremes and the test of time. My second hand one way three yrs old when I got it and it still fells like new despite some minor fading and stains.
No,way too expensive! I got this coat from Sears that was:
•90% down filled (yes,Canadian goose down)
And it was real stylish!Similar looking to the Canadian goose jakets and I don’t care if it got sued!They come in a variety of colors and are extremely warm!This winter I just wore t-shirts under it.(I got the light blue bomber one cuz the medium lenth one didn’t suet me lol)But if you want the Canadian goose one just cuz of the brand go online and look at the sale section which are on sale for $200-$300, just like the Sears ones.😂
I am sure these jackets are overpriced as much as 300 dollars.
Canadians are claiming the price is justified because the jackets are made in Canada, therefore higher quality.
First, if you look online , you will find that the Canadian factories are filled with asian looking people. Sure they are located in Canada,but the product is manufactured mostly by skillful asians probably making minimum wage or a little more. Also the CEO of that company explains that gloves are made in China because it is not possible to find a factory in Canada with the technology to make them here. Hummm, I thought Canada was more advanced than third world countries….
Sure I believe these jackets are high quality and must be very warm, but no more than a 300-400 dollar jacket
It is obvious that this CEO is a smart guy making heaps of money by deceiving patriotic Canadians who like to follow highly rated Canadian fashion 😉
This opinion comes from an ignorant third world citizen 😉
They are an excellent, well-made parka, and when compared with other expedition-quality parkas like those used for Himalayan mountaineering, etc., $700 is comparable. The thing is, though, the average person living in Vancouver or Toronto or New York doesn’t need an expedition-quality parka, and so most are wearing them as a status symbol. Asking people who already bought one whether it is truly worth spending $700 isn’t going to do you a lot of good, as they are going to make up all sorts of reasons to rationalize paying far more than they had to for a far higher level of performance than they really need from a winter parka when they could have bought something perfectly suitable for their needs for far less, otherwise they’d have to admit to you and to themselves that they succumbed to following the herd.
Bain Capital bought Canada Goose last year and have hiked up the prices by as much as $150 a coat. Guess they are trying to get their money back for buying the company at the expense of the once loyal Goose following.
I was going to get my daughter her first Goose this year but having seen the price hikes, with the retailers also in shock, I think I am going to look at other brands.
Bain is known for outsourcing manufacturing to Asia to boost margins so I suppose since they cannot do that, they are going to have to make up the profitability by fleecing the consumer.
I have a bad experience with Canada goose online orders. Never place an order with canada goose directly. place it with Amazon or go to a local store and pick it up. Canada goose are only good in making jackets and horrible at everything commercial and customer facing. they should stick to what they know and let the professionals represent them on the customer facing
If you have the money and have an appreciation for winter fashion i dont see the harm in buying one. Some of the people who say canada goose is a waste of money, are the same people who would spend 1-2000$ on a nice Nikon camera..That to me is a waste of money considering i dont have any interest in photography. I dont have a goose jacket but i think the canada goose haters are either jealous they dont have one. or Jealous they dont have the money to buy clothes as expensive as this. In the end there is nothing wrong with buying expensive things if you have an interest in them. Computers, cameras, books, shoes or expensive clothes
Not gonna lie, just got a 300 dollar Farwest Jacket for times I am doing some serious bush slogging (don’t want to mess up my Canada Goose) and it is almost identical in warmth ( with the exception of the warm hood). Though a 50 dollar fur hat is what I wear with the Farwest jacket and I even warmer than when wearing my Canada Goose. Honestly, lets be real, Canada Goose is definitely a status symbol and the price reflects that. There are jackets with same build quality and functionality for half the price. I don’t like when people try to justify the need to be viewed upon as wealthy, though they are not with reasons to defend such a psyche. Though, I too am guilty of such a thing when I bought mine, later in life I realized it was kind of a excessive expenditure. Then again, same reason people absurdly priced everything. But yeah, lets just be real here, not worth the $825, taxes in.
When you ski the highest peaks of Colorado and the ski patrol dudes tell you “nice jacket”, you know you’ve made the right choice. For walking around in the city a $300 jacket is fine, but when the wind-chill is -50f you want the best jacket made by mankind.
A HUGE NO TO CANADA GOOSE!!!!!
YES to Wully Mammoth Outerwear. They cost a little less and are warmer and better quality. Quebe hydro workers prefer their material over Canada Goose. Wully Mammoth Outerwear is also a Canadian company. The best part of this jacket is that it is ANIMAL CRUELTY FREE! I moved to Toronto from Puerto Rico and absolutely LOVE this jacket. Best investment ever!!!
My company bought them for their employees so hell yes I am grateful to have it in the snow belt area I live in. Having worn it now for three years I know I would buy one if mine somehow was accidentally damaged. Lets face it people could afford these coats if they didn’t waste a ton of money on shit that can kill them, booze, cigarettes, drugs not to mention gambling addictions.
Lots of people slam CG for the cost, for the use of coyote fur and for the allegation that people buy CG for “the image”. If I may:
1. The CG coats cost more, because the Toronto factory where they are made employs adults, not children, and pays above-board wages. Foreign-made products use factories that have questionable labor standards at best. Plus, very skilled technicians cut and assemble CG coats under conditions of strict quality control. Sounds like a sales pitch, but if you spend even one week in a factory, you’ll know there are assembly plants that cut corners, and there are places like CG that use cutting edge tech to put out really solid quality pieces that will last a lifetime. Yes, you can buy a Mark’s Work Warehouse coat for under $200. It’ll do a decent job keeping you warm with synthetic insulation. It’ll also look like hell in a few years and won’t do so well when the weather gets crazy cold. Sputter all you want; nothing but nothing is as warm as goose down.
2. The coyote fur is obtained by Canadian indigenous people by vast majority; they hunt today as they did hundreds of years ago because its the way to live off the land. There are more coyotes than the government can handle, which is why permits are so easy to obtain for hunting. I’m an animal lover too, but Native Canadians are going to hunt and sell their wares, and nothing keeps you warmer than fur. It works when cold and wet. Synthetics cannot. It’s a tough part of the equation, I get it, because I love animals and have companion animals as well. I also realize that the majority of people screaming about fur eat meat.
3. I’ve seen people criticise CG for both price and use of animal products. Fact is, those criticisms were always written on a computer. Which uses rare earth minerals, that are no longer sourced from California, but are solely sourced from China in factories that are known to use child labour and which are often owned/controlled by organized crime. Sounds dramatic, but check it here: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/aug/07/china-rare-earth-village-pollution
So, when I buy a Canada Goose jacket, it employs Canadians and Native Canadians, it gives me a product that will last my lifetime and that will provide warmth in a very fundamental way. The North Face products are half the price of CG, and they are also made in China/Vietnam in poor labor conditions.
Final word; CG is a high quality garment that does an amazing job keeping you warm, and that will last a lifetime. It is made as ethically as a product using animal fur/feathers can be, it employs Canadians and it’s more than just “a name.”
But if your sole concern is price, then off to Walmart. There are a plethora of non-down options there that are very affordable. Just don’t look behind the curtain at how and where those ridiculously inexpensive products are made.
I should add, that I own two CG coats and I’ve worn them over 5 years. One is the Expedition Parka and one is from the Altitude line. You have to realize that these garments are *incredibly* warm. The majority of our Canadian population, statistically speaking, live in urban areas. So winter is generally a run from warm spot to warm spot. For many of these applications, CG may be overkill.
However, if you actually work outdoors in a really cold (not Toronto) environment, then CG comes into it’s own in a way that few other garments can. PHD makes down jackets and legging systems for climbing Everest and that sort of thing; those garments are going to be too much for standing outside waiting for a bus in Hamilton, ON. So, consider that CG is really made for crazy cold weather. They have been streamlining their designs a great deal for the Euro market; less insulation and much more slim fitting. But if you plan to do be outdoors, especially in a low activity state like winter wildlife photography, these garments are worth the money.
The the critics shouting out their sentiments in upper case posts, as I wrote earlier, off to Walmart with you, there’s lots of low cost, average quality selection there, and you can stock up at the Little Debbies snack cakes on the way out.
Four years ago, I bought a Canada Goose coat in Montreal while living in Vermont (when it wasn’t a status symbol in America — which it is now). I paid $750 at the time, and couldn’t believe how expensive it was. Now, I live in the mountains of Colorado. From the day I bought it, I’ve literally never once regretted it. I’m always, always cold in the winter, but I’m never cold in my Canada Goose. I snowshoe in it, downhill ski in it, and wear it in below freezing temps. One of the best purchases I’ve ever made, and it’s in as good shape as the day I bought it. It’s going to last at least a decade — well worth $75 a year when you break it down like that.
You spent $700 on a phone?!? I could never justify a purchase like that, and I’m an IT professional!
In any case, spending that much money on anything is a matter of perspective. While I would never buy a CG jacket, I bough a CDN Spirit bomber for $350 and my gf bought a $600 OSC parka. Both brands are made in Canada and you can see the quality that comes with the price tag.
By the way, one reason there are so many CG out there is that there is a huge counterfeit market for them.
Depends on. I worked in the tundra of the NWT at a diamond mine during the construction of the dikes and tailings dams as well as up at Raglan Nickel mine way up north in northern Quebec about 100kms south of the Hudson strait and believe me if you are working outside in the winter you need such a coat! If you live and work in northern Ontario in Marathon, Nipigon, Geraldton, Long Lac etc.and north of there you need these Canada Goose coats. In Southern Ontario, I have never worn this coat because it has never been cold enough and only pretentious people wear and buy these coats to wear here.
Yes that’s right, be self righteous and state how u bought your north face jacket that doesn’t kill a coyote. Then realize that it was made by a child getting paid 1$ a day and realize you support cute animals over other humans. You are the tools.
No. First, I live in the midwestern US. Yes, it does get cold out here, but a wool coat would do.
Third: in terms of fashionable, these coats aren’t. I’d rather get an Aquascutum.
I would definitely say yes to this. Currently I own a Canada Goose Parka and have had it since 2001. Very warm, very good coat and I would recommend it to anyone. There is one thing though, if you try venturing out in >-30 weather you may find it a bit warm. We used to live in Nunavut where the weather would frequently dip well below the-30 Celsius temperature and I welcomed the warmth of this coat. As well it is very good at preventing winds from cooling you off. I do own a t-max from Mark’s but find it not sufficient in the above -30 weather sure it’s good to that and keeps toasty warm but at -35 or colder you begin to feel the cold as well as the wind. I have read above some people anticipate their Canada Goose Parka to last 10 years. Well mine is now 16/17 years and still in extremely good condition. The stitching is still as good as new but the cuffs are showing some wear and tear.
I bought a $900 ROSSCLAIR PARKA FUSION FIT from Canada Goose. As long as you love it.
My Burberry, Armani and Hugo Boss parkas were quite a bit more expensive (000’s) than Canada Goose, but I enjoy/ed wearing them. I wouldn’t buy a CG coat today as they are too popular and I don’t think they’re very fashionable. I’m a bit of a snob tbh. My next coat purchase will be a duvetica, but I’m trying to be a more savvy shopper and will wait and buy one on sale.
I’m amazed at how every other person is wearing s CG coat. It reminds me of the young girls obsession with those dreadful looking UGG boots.
A horrible, completely awful company making jackets of cruelty. The wearers may think they look cool with their branded jackets, instead, they are wearing their ignorance, apathy, and lack of ethics.
Also, it’s completely insane to equate Made in China Jackets and potential child labour to the horrendous Canada Goose practices. Our brains are capable of nuance. We can care about more than one issue at a time.
Also, it’s completely insane to equate Made in China Jackets and potential child labour to the horrendous Canada Goose practices.
Our brains are capable of nuance. We can care about more than one issue at a time. There are PLENTY of jackets made without cruelty made in Canada, US, UK etc.
One company even lets you trade in the awful Canada Goose one for an ethically produced one. Wully Outerwear:https://www.wullyouterwear.com/
Each purchase is a vote for the kind of world we want to live in.
I absolutely would not buy it. Canada Goose is now for people who have MUCH more money than sense. Are Canada Goose parkas well-made? Probably. Are Canada Goose parkas appropriate for wearing in the large, wet and cold east and west coast cities? Absolutely not. Are the Canada Goose parkas good value for the money? Absolutely Not. It’s easy to find parkas that perform just as well as Canada Goose for a LOT less. Canada Goose parkas are now for those who have much more money than sense.
I am from the Adirondacks. I know what it’s like to spend Christmas on Mt Washington. A friend of the family was a meteorologist on Mt Washington, NH. The more northern east and west coast North American cities tend to be cold and wet during the winter. You DEFINITELY do not want down in these conditions. You need outerwear designed to protect you from the wet and wind.. I swear by my Gore-Tex shell, wind pants, > 25 year old Sorel boots and appropriate layering. I cary a pack and remove layers / put layers on as needed. This is a MUCH better approach than spending 900USD on a Canada Goose coat.
In the Adirondacks, I take a different approach. It does get cold enough that you really do want down. There is one BIG problem with down: it looses its insulation capability when it gets wet. So, it’s a VERY bad idea to wear a down parka out when it’s snowing hard. I have a very old, and still very serviceable North Face down parka. I have old Sorel boots that have served me well on many a dead of winter trip.
If I had to buy a replacement parka, I’d either buy a LL Bean Baxter State Park parka, an Apocalypse parka, (Made in Fairbanks, AK) a Wiggy’s system (I have a Wiggy’s SuperLight sleeping bag and swear by it), or another parka recommended by people who live in Alaska’s interior. The truth of the matter is this: the most heavy duty Apocalypse parka with a fur ruff will set you back just north of 1,000 USD as compared to 1,500 USD for a Canada Goose one.
Now, do you want to be fashionable or do you want to demonstrate that you have good sense?
CGs are the best under 1000% they’ve become cheap considering inflation and other brands selling similar quality for over 2 grand
Expedition parka from CG, trusted everywhere where it matters.
City dwellers dont need it, they can go buy their vegan, gluten free coat all they want.
If you just want to keep warm, then it is totally unworthy! I think most of Canadian don’t even have one, and I guess they survive just fine. Even the Made in China can help you survive in winter if you wear them right. BTW, nowday it is not the quality of MICs makes them cheap, it is actually “you get what you pay for”, nottomention yout the iPhone is actually MiC!
I’m very happy with the winter coat purchased from Chlorophylle (QC company, $200). It’s on it’s 3rd winter and I love the quality! This is for Montreal winters, not Nunavut. But I see plenty of Canada Goose jackets around here. I would definitely never pay that price.
YES if you work where the temperature is below -15. I have a Canada Goose and wouldn’t be without it because I hate the cold. It is especially important when you live in a windy area. The Canada Goose lets you use the wire in the hood to close out and block 90% of the wind. I HIGHLY recommend this coat if you travel NORTH. To be honest, when I travel to Toronto or Montreal and see people sporting a CG, I giggle to myself. Stick to the coat for places where you really need it. Otherwise, it’s just a fashion statement… a very expensive TOO warm one!
I purchased a CG Carson Parka few days ago from official website, and the parka I received has VERY poor fur (approximately only half size of my current less expensive made-in-Canada parka, also real coyote fur.)
There are thread ends not trimmed outside of this parka, noticeable, I know it is understandable but sometimes this is indicator of poor quality control.
I also noticed this parka has cold arms issue, in my case, my right arm (especially around elbow joint) feels cold while temperature was -3 Celsius.
I have no idea why people keep saying CG parka is warmer than others, it is clearly not the truth in my case. I guess it could be Placebo Effect and/or CG used to be good but not anymore.
Absolutely worth it! I love mine, especially in the -30C windchills where I live. It keeps me warm and snuggly. I’m not a fan of the coyote fur… I admit that, but it does keep your head warmer than a toque.
I’m curious if all the people above leaving negative reviews have ever owned a CG jacket? Or even tried one during a windy winter day? Or are they just leaving negative comments because they can, and you know… this is the internet where everyone and their mother is a keyboard warrior with an opinion on everything but no substantial actual knowledge to back it up.
I live in Minnesota. Yes, by golly it is cold. No, no one needs an expedition style $700-$900 jacket for average use. If you are going to Antartica or winter camping or running the Iditerod. I have had extremely affordable and warm coats from Lands End that have lasted years. I have had many nice down jackets. I actually think the people wearing these coats out on their errands and to the bar for a beer look ridiculous. Totally a status symbol. And I have no qualms about spending money for quality things. This is not worth 2-3X the price of other very high quality coats.
I have coats that I bought 4 or 5 years ago that was less than $100 and no they didn’t fall apart, I still wear them and they are totally fine!!!
I have a traditional Burberry’s beige pea coat that I bought about 15 years ago. It is beyond warm and very classy.
I’m “down” with supporting ANY Canadian made product. That’s it , that’s all ! Merci Bonsoir.
I had no idea this product had any controversy surrounding it. My 18 year old daughter is moving from our home in Louisiana to an Air Force Base in a very cold state, where there is snow and the temps sometimes get below 0°F. I have no experience with this so I looked online at the Chicago Tribune site and of all the costs they rated, they said this is what is worn at McMurdow Station in Antarctica and when people climb Mt. Everest, this is what they wear. They also said they had to unzip it a little on a super cold Chicago day because it was too warm.
To me, that’s just what you do as a mother; you keep your kid warm. The warmest.
I purchased 4 Canada Goose jackets in the past 5 years. They are very nice jackets, but (1) they are absolutely not the warmest jackets I have ever worn (that honor goes to the Absolute Zero parka from Mountain Hardwear), (2) the rate of Canada Goose’s price increases over the past five years has been obscene, and (3) there are no goose feathers at all in any Canada Goose jackets except the most expensive one. If you are buying Canada Goose in 2018, you are a fool.
I bought a Canada Goose parka for my wife. She’s in real estate and spends a lot of time outside in winter.
But my parka is an excellent old American-made Eddie Bauer parka. It has all the features of the Canada Goose Resolute parka. It is really heavy and with the inner skirt to keep out the cold, just like the Canada Goose heavier parkas.
In fact, since Eddie Bauer has been making expedition parkas for mountaineering and for scientific expeditions to the Arctic and Antarctica since 1920, it occurs to me that my old expedition parka was the prototype for the Snow Goose/Canada Goose parkas.
And what is the idea behind their patch showing Antarctica and saying “Arctic Program” on them?
finally a use for coyotes !
Bought my first Canada Goose Expedition Parka back in Jan 2006….kept it till April 2018
thats 12 winters….not too bad of any invested if you ask me.
Gave it in at the church for the poor…
Looking to get my 2nd Canada goose one this week 😁
A parka is not a jacket. A jacket fits higher on the body than a parka does. Canada Goose does sell both. The term you want to use if referring to both is coat. Coat is a broad term that can refer to jackets, parkas, and trench coats. Most of what Canada Goose sells are parkas.
A Canada Goose jacket, like any quality article of clothing is worth the price, in my opinion. Even for $800 or $900, if the jacket lasts for 10 years, it pays for itself. No jacket will keep you warmer, or last longer.
I bought a Canada Goose parka in 2004 for $300.00 some dollars that is still my working winter coat. I think it was a special edition; has a band of embroidery just above the bottom hem. A little wear here and there which I have repaired, but it was well worth it. Also got a Canada Goose bomber jacket with a shearling collar for less than 200.00 at the same time. Both from Sierra Trading Post. I thought they were quite expensive at the time, but not anymore!
I have never bought a $900+ jacket. Before owning the CG jacket I’ve owned many jackets from North Face, Patagonia, Michael Kors, and so on but never seem to be as warm. I currently live in Washington state and it rarely gets to the negative degrees and I am a slim petite women under 5 feet and I get cold very easily. So far I have found the CG to keep me warm/cozy and no it is not for status. Where I live and travel a lot of people wear CG for status but that depends on how people perceive it. Sometimes I’m left debating if I made a good choice.. and sometimes I use my CG as a blanket in bed or on the couch. Downfall is it isn’t waterproof so it can be quite hard to wear it all the time where I live. Nice thing is the fur zipper part can be taken off & there is a zipper on the back for more space while sitting.
Really, a status symbol? I bet you all drive used Chevy’s too right? The coat is worth what you feel. I’m a single mom of two children and I work hard for my money. Incidentally, I have no issue with the price, I just bought us one each n will probably have them for years. All of you who buy 100 coats, multiply that by the min 7 to 10 years I’ll have our coats and it’s worth it. Oh yeah, We will be warm n toasty n you will be layering like s cheapskate. I guess that’s why people get rich n I don’t. I enjoy my money n you all save for a rainy.day. my uncle did that, cheap cheap cheap, he had two hundred thousand in his account when he was hit by a drunk driver and died at thirty five . He enjoyed nothing but boy did he have a lot to retire on someday, u Kno what they say about someday right?
Have purchased Canada Goose Langford Parka jacket this winter: highly disappointing experience, very some feathers come out stick on my suit jackets.
Took that CG parka to Russia… not worth 1000$ at -65
Dunno, in 1985 I bought an american made REI 850 fill down, goretex, hooded parka and have stayed warm and dry ever since down to minus WTF, lol…
big NO! Pure vanity. There are brands out there that sell coats for 1/3 of that price, not even. In my opinion most Canada Goose buyers want to simply become part of a “elite” group, some of them can be indeed, whilst others want to be seem as elite people.
I don’t think so. Canada Goose recently has gone bad in Product Quality control
I bought a Lodge Hoody for my father in late November 2018. He has been wearing it for merely 4 months and found out the joint between the cuff and sleeve was frayed on both hand.
Warranty department said it is our fault that we damage the joint and ask for $225+ to repair. What a ridiculous services and product. We paid for this jacket over $600 and after 4 months, we did not expect to see this kind of issue.
On the other hand, my 3-years Arcteryx has not shown this problem yet so I would definitely doubt that I would purchase from CG any products in the future.
I looked at the Forester model. One of the cheaper ones at $795 or thereabouts. I started digging into the details and found the following:
625 Fill Power Canadian White Duck Down
So, what happened to the goose fill?
Sincerest thanks to all who posted genuine and thoughtful comments on this forum. I have been considering Canada Goose for several years now, but have been unwilling to accept the price, mostly because I do not live in a climate that supports the need for the weight of the heavy coat. If I did, I would probably buy the one without the coyote fur. For our climate I will probably select the Eddie Bauer based on function over fashion. I found a picture through a link in this thread of a model (one of the many “Kate”s) in NY sporting a Canada Goose coat on top, with the entire length of her legs covered only in tights – that is IMO terrible advertising for a tundra-specific coat. And while coyotes can be brutal and opportunistic, I find it equally as brutal and opportunistic to murder them to hang around my neck. Yuck. I’d rather wear a scarf to solve the problem of faux fur “freezing to my face.” Sadly, I am not yet as compromised about the ducks, but will probably get there soon. We need to find a way to stop murdering all of the animals for human needs. There are simply too many folks on the planet to continue doing this. Fortunate were the folks who lived when earth’s population was less than 5 million (which was as recent as 1980); they enjoyed it’s bounty with complete disregard. Of course, they didn’t yet have smart phones, the poor souls;-) Anyhow, to those of you who swear by your warm, durable coat, and brilliant purchasing power: enjoy them to the max. But please please please don’t buy any more down coats with real animal fur going forward.
Good product BUS SERVICE SUX
Bought my SECOND CG collaboration jacket this year. My first experience was positive and the medium size jacket I purchased was a perfect fit. Earlier this month I decided to treat myself to a new coat. Due to my current location in BC and because of COVID I elected to place my order online. Again, I went for the Medium size.
Upon purchase, I noted the NO REFUND POLICY
When the coat arrived it is miles too large, I contacted Canada Goose, not to RETURN but to EXCHANGE for the same model coat in a smaller size. They will not accept me exchange even though the purchase data was less than 30 days ago,
I am now left with a $800 dollar coat I will never be able to use.
This is shocking service from such an iconic Canadian company – I WILL NEVER AGAIN USE CANADA GOOSE as their service is embarrassing.
Was interesting to read the comments on here; wanted to see how the market opinion has progressed over the years for the premium Canadian-made parkas.
Bought my wife one of the OSC parkas about 6 years ago for living in Edmonton and winter business trips to Saskatoon, Grande Prairie, Peace River etc, where the rental car barely even warms up on a 20-minute drive and having to walk around plant sites. Even at 20% off, it was still around 600 bucks, but the quality was better than anything else on the racks, and this many years later it still looks new.
I needed a longer coat for outdoor work and leisure, just picked up an OSC Massak for half-price, beautiful coat; Was tempted by the recent half-price eddie bauers too which would be cheaper, and which are also very nice but just don’t compare in ruggedness and warmth.
I do love and respect all animals, however coyotes are everywhere here, hear them howling at night and eating people’s cats/dogs and chasing children, so might as well put the culled numbers to use when it’s happening anyway, and people keep eating ducks and geese, then make a top quality, long-lasting product rather than disposable fast fashion coat you change out every year. Even if one unit is cheaper, environmentally friendlier or lower carbon, does that matter if you repeatedly buy one after the other?
Looking forward to work, outdoor nature photography, astronomy and hikes in comfort at even the coldest temperatures (we’ve seen multiple times to below -40C in the last few years) for many many years if not many decades to come without having to rebuy.
I’m still wearing my 20+ year old Eddie Bauer Gortex Ridgline Parka(made in Canada).It’s as warm as the day I bought it. Easy to keep clean. I have actually washed it and it stays tried and true. If I recall, I paid more than $400 for it then and that wasn’t cheap back then.
I have looked at Canada Goose as a replacement and when the time comes, I won’t begrudge paying for the quality that Canada Goose has.
Kerry I know that’s not you on the cover of Sports Illustrated lol but that is you at the end of the article wearing the wool coat byBCBGMAXAZRIA right? You’re very thin.
It is now the year 2022 and CG coats aren’t $700 anymore They’re $1200
Given the current level of inflation it could be $4300 next week.
Thank you for sharing your research and insights, I found this very helpful and instructive. Based on some research and looking at shopping comments that CG is about brand marketing and psychology. My wife really wants this for Xmas but I just cannot get there logically, we shall see if I can hold the line.